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'It'd be a freakish side': All Blacks and Springboks dominate British pair's SANZAAR XV to face Lions

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Wales midfielder Jamie Roberts and Scotland flanker Ryan Wilson have outlined which Southern Hemisphere stars could make a potential SANZAAR XV to take on the British and Lions.

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The Lions are scheduled to tour South Africa this year, but whether the series goes ahead remains uncertain as COVID-19 continues to wreak havoc worldwide.

Numerous contingency plans – such as playing in front of no fans, staging the series in the United Kingdom, or delaying the tour until next year – have been drawn up, while the captains of the four Home Nations have been in talks with Lions bosses about the feasibility of the tour.

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With there being no certainty that the tour will go ahead as planned, the concept of a hypothetical SANZAAR XV, made up of players from the Rugby Championship, to play the Lions was floated to Roberts and Wilson on the latest episode of RugbyPass Offload.

When asked which players from the All Blacks, Wallabies, Springboks and Los Pumas would make his SANZAAR XV if it was made reality, Wilson said his side would mostly be made up of New Zealanders.

“I would basically pick the whole of the New Zealand team,” the 49-test loose forward said.

“Then I would maybe chuck in Cheslin Kolbe, [Siya] Kolisi, I’d have him in there, and maybe some giant second row.”

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Wilson pinpointed Springboks star Eben Etzebeth and the lock “that looks like Hagrid”, presumably the scruffy-haired and big-bearded RG Snyman, as leading candidates to fill the two second row spots.

The 31-year-old added that he would have Wallabies boss Dave Rennie, who coached Wilson during his time at Glasgow Warriors between 2017 and 2019, as the side’s head coach.

“[He would have] just a massive, mutant second row because Kiwis don’t really have giant second rows.

“Just one of those big boys from South Africa, whoever they are. That would probably be my team, and then get Dave Rennie, Australia coach, in there to coach them.”

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Roberts, meanwhile, said it was “hard to disagree” with Wilson’s selections, with the 97-test veteran, who has played three tests for the Lions, also opting for South African flavour in a forward pack dominated by All Blacks.

 

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“Out of the Springbok pack, I’d have [Steven] Kitshoff, I would have Kolisi, [Pieter-Steph] du Toit. Probably those three in amongst a predominantly All Black pack,” he told RugbyPass Offload.

“Maybe one of the second rows as well. It needs the muscle of the South African pack.”

Roberts noted the skill set of the backs across New Zealand, Australia and South Africa would make for a more diverse backline, of which would include an All Blacks halves pairing and Springboks World Cup hero Cheslin Kolbe.

He said that regardless of who makes the cut, a SANZAAR XV, if it ever comes to fruition, would be “freakish”.

“Kolbe’s got to be in there. [He’s] an immense player. Kiwi halfbacks, maybe a few of the Aussies sprinkled in there.

“Bit of a mix in the backline, I think. I think across those three countries, there’s some special, special backs.

“It’d be a freakish side, there’s no doubt about that, but whether we’ll ever see it happen, God knows.”

In spite of the obvious talents that would come with a SANZAAR XV, Roberts added he would rather see the return of a touring Pacific Islands side.

The inaugural Pacific Islanders team, consisting of players from Fiji, Samoa, Tonga, Niue and the Cook Islands, made its debut in 2004 when it toured New Zealand and Australia, playing tests against the All Blacks, Wallabies and Springboks.

Competitive but ultimately unsuccessful in all three tests, they comfortably won two other matches against a Queensland XV and New South Wales.

 

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Two years later, the Pacific Islanders travelled to Europe where they played three tests against Wales, Scotland and Ireland, and returned in 2008 to play tests against England, France and Italy, losing each match bar their final clash against the Azzurri.

The team hasn’t featured since then, though, with Samoa withdrawing from Pacific Islands Rugby Allegiance in 2009 due to financial reasons.

A Moana Pasifika side, made up of mostly New Zealand-based players with Fijian, Samoan, Tongan and Tokelauan heritage, made its debut appearance last month when it faced the Maori All Blacks in Hamilton.

However, that is a New Zealand Rugby-backed franchise expected to be included in Super Rugby next year, along with the Fijian Drua from Australia’s NRC.

Roberts said that he would prefer to see a collective Pacific Islands team back on the international stage rather than any kind of collaborative SANZAAR outfit.

He cited geographic limitations and differences in rugby ideologies between New Zealand, Australia and South Africa as reasons why he disapproves of a SANZAAR XV concept.

“If there was going to be another team that is a collective as countries, I’d like to see a Pacific Islands side come together.

“I think that Australia, New Zealand and South Africa are so far apart geographically and as identities as rugby countries. I think a team comprising those countries doesn’t work for me.

“The Lions is what it is because they’re part of the United Kingdom, as such. Ireland [as well], it’s the British and Irish Lions concept.

“I’d like to see the Pacific Island have something where they come together and have a touring team like the Lions.”

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JW 2 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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