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'It's a scar you have for the rest of your life, mate'

19 Nov 2021

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Eddie Jones has admitted that the 2019 World Cup final defeat for England is a scar that he will have for the rest of his life but he insisted revenge isn’t a description to be used heading into Saturday’s first clash with the Springboks since that seminal meeting 24 months ago in Yokohama.

England were ultimately blown away by the Springboks in the final in Japan but as painful as it was, Jones has described how impressed he has been with how the England players who were involved that day have moved on from that deflating experience.

Jones has selected a starting pack for this weekend’s Autumn Nations Series match that contains five of the same starters from the World Cup final – Kyle Sinckler, Maro Itoje, Courtney Lawes, Tom Curry and Sam Underhill – while there are three more repeat starters in the backline – Manu Tuilagi, Jonny May and Ben Youngs.

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“They beat us fair and square and you go into a final and you give your best and sometimes you are not good enough,” said England boss Jones looking back on the painful defeat that arose just a week after his team had eliminated the All Blacks.

“Personally you never forget it, you never forget it. The players who played in that final never forget it. It’s with you your whole life but it’s your ability to get past that and focus on what is important next.

Marchant has never started before on the England wing while Marler is still in isolation until 8pm Thursday ? #England #ENGvRSA #AutumnNationsSeries #Springboks
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— RugbyPass (@RugbyPass) November 18, 2021

“I have been impressed by how our team has done that and for me, I am just excited about coaching this young team and seeing where they can go. The 2019 World Cup at the moment is not a significant memory that I have but that is not to say I still don’t wake up in the morning and think about it. It’s a scar you have for the rest of your life, mate.”

Asked if revenge was a factor heading to Saturday’s rematch with the Springboks, Jones added: “Not at all. They have got a different team, we have got a different team, different circumstances. We don’t get the World Cup back, mate. We don’t get the gold medal back so this game is about this game against this South African team which is No1 in the world, we’re No3 in the world. They think we have got a weak forward pack. We’ll see on Saturday.”

Just 8?? months ago Nic Dolly was playing for Coventry in the Championship… now he is set to face the Springboks with England ?#England #ENGvRSA #AutumnNationsSeries #Springboks https://t.co/AyY3NO7jXB
— RugbyPass (@RugbyPass) November 18, 2021

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Cantab 5 days ago

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Although NZ won comfortably enough they weren’t always convincing and a better opposition may well have found them out. If our gun 7s players can translate their skills to the 15s game the team would have the ability to beat anyone. Need to be given the chance though.

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James 5 days ago

'Whisper it, but the Wallabies could out-scrum the British and Irish Lions this summer'

And how do you see the Wallabies loosehead / Lion’s tighthead battle Nick?

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dw 5 days ago

'Whisper it, but the Wallabies could out-scrum the British and Irish Lions this summer'

Also interested in your thoughts on A Bell. Haven't noticed many scrum issues recently. He also seems to play 60 or so mins every game. A bit of a fan (even though he’s a tah..) but wondered if the Lions would target his scrummaging

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dw 5 days ago

'Whisper it, but the Wallabies could out-scrum the British and Irish Lions this summer'

True. And you look at how the European coaches have got so much out of skelton and how much the local fans love him…and then some Oz fans will still say “he played poorly for the tahs I'm 2015!”

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dw 5 days ago

'Whisper it, but the Wallabies could out-scrum the British and Irish Lions this summer'

Thanks Nick but your headline has just jinxed us and reminded me of that night in 2013!

I love any analysis of the scrums such as the above. Cheers.

Allalatoa seems to be in good form and Nongorr appears to be able to hold his own? I think they will pick Tupou regardless of form. After Friday night I am concerned he could be sent off in the first five mins of the test though! He got too pumped up and hit a player high and was carded

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RedWarriors 5 days ago

'Most complacent selection decision you will ever see': Barrett benching slammed as Leinster knocked out

I watched the mainstream NZ pundits eg Mils Muliaina and they DID back NZ to win almost to a man.

Ireland will talk their team up as anyone would with the caveats we are playing the ABs and match was de facto 50:50, That is not the same as dismissing the opposition. EG After the quarter John Kirwan said he was sorry France didn’t win versus SA becuase a ‘France-NZ final would be perfect. (The semis had not even been played yet, England and Argentina completely dismissed! He didn’t even realize his own arrogance) NZ are not even aware of the arrogance they exude. Has no Kiwi politely asked the national team to take down the ‘Superstars and Humble Heroes’ boasting on the AB site? Its cringeworthy stuff. Do NZ really see themselves like this?

Note all this BS about Irish arrogance started just after NZs defeat in the 2022 series. Not a coincidence.

Also: this is Irish national TV. We will talk our team up as everyone does. We care too much about judgemental and thin skinned Kiwis getting offended.

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JM 5 days ago

'Whisper it, but the Wallabies could out-scrum the British and Irish Lions this summer'

Aussie rugby fans are obsessed with players they hate, for whatever reason.

Michael Hooper is another one, and the hatred only increased whenever he won John Eales medals or the two times he was nominated world player of the year.

I reckon it is because our forwards are technically and mentally weak they put it all on one player who they think should make way for the messiah.

Same for the general team performance and the hate put on players like White, Lolesio, and Foley who should be pulling rabbits out of the hat every play.

I reckon, if we had of had 5 players with Hooper’s desire and drive spread across the team (and especiallythe forwards), we wouldn’t have woken up in the bottom of the ditch.

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RedWarriors 5 days ago

'What he’s given to this club is nothing short of incredible'

He shouldn’t have been picked. Not physically able for the most intense matches notably in Twickenham last year. Giving him the captaincy was also a very short sighted decision then after RWC 2023. Ireland have a tendency to be a little too loyal, which can mean the team ages and the rebuild is bigger than should be.

Plenty of lads out there to fill that squad.

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OJohn 5 days ago

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Hooray

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Carlos 5 days ago

'Whisper it, but the Wallabies could out-scrum the British and Irish Lions this summer'

He was also a YC magnet.

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Carlos 5 days ago

'Whisper it, but the Wallabies could out-scrum the British and Irish Lions this summer'

Windsor-Faulkner-Price. 😊

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Mzilikazi 5 days ago

'Whisper it, but the Wallabies could out-scrum the British and Irish Lions this summer'

Ah, the Pooler front row ! Most legendary in the history of the , I would think. Max Boyce helped…”Here we. here we, here we go, with the Pontypool front row.”

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Mzilikazi 5 days ago

'Whisper it, but the Wallabies could out-scrum the British and Irish Lions this summer'

Would not go as far as whole house in our family, but for me, yes, W1. Loved playing in the scrum, love watching now😀

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Mzilikazi 5 days ago

'Whisper it, but the Wallabies could out-scrum the British and Irish Lions this summer'

Yes, I see that article here on RP, Nick. That is good news that Schmidt is going to look at the o’seas players.

Yes, I would think you are right that LAR will qualify. On the same points as MP, but surely they are too good not to win this crunch game….could be tEnse for ROG in the stands though.

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BC 5 days ago

Who would make it into a Women's British and Irish Lions starting XV?

I would pick Oifa Wafer at 6, put Aldcroft in the second row with Ward. I think Wafer is one of the few non-England players mentioned that would contend for a Red Rose shirt, the others being King and possibly Neve Jones. Conversely there are two English players mentioned, Sing and Venner, that probably won’t even make the Red Rose WC squad, let alone a Lions Tour. Still a lot can change in two years, watch out for Millie David.

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Otagoman II 5 days ago

'Whisper it, but the Wallabies could out-scrum the British and Irish Lions this summer'

Great article NB, thanks. I would like to know what is the reasoning why so many things are penalties in the scrum. Is it to do with safety or something else?

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NB 5 days ago

'Whisper it, but the Wallabies could out-scrum the British and Irish Lions this summer'

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