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‘It’s not right for me to talk about previous games’

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One endearing thing that you have to like about Mark Jones is that he doesn’t do bluff. His coaching vernacular is of the straight-shooting variety, a style honed in recent years at the Super Rugby-winning Crusaders. He is now working as interim Wales U20s head coach following his aborted spell at the financially collapsed Worcester.

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The Welsh were Six Nations age-grade wooden spoonists just a few months back under a different coaching regime and having taken charge in early May, Jones’ fingerprints are all over the general improvements witnessed in recent weeks in South Africa at the Junior World Championship.

Heading into the tournament you would have feared the Welsh could go the way of Scotland in 2019 when the event was last staged. The Scots finished 12th and were relegated, a demotion that they will only finally get the chance to rectify next week when they participate in the eight-team World Junior Trophy in Kenya.

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Rather than battling relegation in Cape Town, though, a refreshed Wales have had a bit more about them, coming within a whisker of ambushing New Zealand and then showing some gas to pull away from Japan with a late flourish after some difficult early moments.

Tuesday’s pool-closing contest versus France was another level, however. The defeat wasn’t as damaging as the 67-17 battering suffered 15 weeks ago when the teams met in the Six Nations.

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Wales had encouraging moments in generating multiple linebreaks but the 14-man French, who ended the group stage as the No1 ranked side out of the 12 participants, always had an extra gear to convincingly win 43-17.

Despite the reduced margin, Jones wasn’t of a mind to compare the March result under Byron Hayward in Oyonnax with what materialised in Athlone. “It’s not right for me to talk about previous games,” he told RugbyPass. “I will just focus on this performance and we were below our level in this performance in terms of our execution. I am disappointed that we didn’t take a lot more of our opportunities.

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“We showed that we are a very dangerous team. I know they were down to 14 men for a large chunk as well, but there are definitely elements of our performance that we will be disappointed with. The guys had prepared well, they were clear on what their roles were and unfortunately, under the heat of battle, the skill set in particular hasn’t quite held up.

“The positive thing is that gives us an opportunity, gives us something to focus on. We know that we can fix our own game first before we start worrying about opposition and hopefully we can turn it around and come out of the blocks flying in the next match.”

That fifth-to-eighth-place semi-final will be against Georgia in Paarl and with New Zealand facing Australia on the other side of the draw, Wales will have two more decent fixtures to finish out the campaign. “It’s been a mixed pool,” surmised Jones about their three-game Pool A adventure which harvested seven match points to leave them ranked eighth best out of the 12 teams heading into the play-offs.

“Loads of green shoots in the first two games around our set-piece in the first game and some of our strikes from set-piece, we looked really dangerous with the ball in hand and there was some pretty decent defence in there around the phase play stuff.

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“The second pool match against Japan we showed great game management, good character, dealt with the conditions really well and had some good maturity from young men in what was a tight game and we got away with it in the end. What we have learned against France is you get punished if you don’t take your opportunities. It has been a very mixed pool but the tournament is not over and we have got to make sure we carry on.

“I am happy with the chances that we created. It was definitely an element of our game that was positive; we made 10 linebreaks and they made 12. Just their conversion rate was so much better than ours and we are disappointed.

“We put a lot of work into our set-piece along with other areas of our game. Boys are working incredibly hard in those areas, but we came up against a very strong team and we couldn’t quite contain them at that set-piece and that gave them the platform for their performance.”

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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