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'It's ridiculous': Ex-All Blacks defend Samipeni Finau after Tane Edmed hit

Tane Edmed of the Waratahs is challenged by the Chiefs during the round ten Super Rugby Pacific match between NSW Waratahs and Chiefs at Allianz Stadium, on April 26, 2024, in Sydney, Australia. (Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

Two former All Blacks have come to the defence of Chiefs’ blindside Samipeni Finau after his crunching tackle on Tane Edmed was put under the spotlight.

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The No.6 committed to the tackle while Edmed held possession and made contact shortly after the pass had been released. The hit rocked Edmed and the Waratahs’ flyhalf remained grounded after the tackle.

After having a series of late hits documented throughout the season by Australian rugby writer Christy Doran, Finau’s latest on Edmed was widely discussed and condemned by many on the X platform.

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His shot that floored Reds flyhalf Tom Lynagh  earlier in the year was widely criticised as being way too late, earning Finau the reputation with many as a rough and unfair player.

Former All Black Sir John Kirwan took exception with having to discuss the legal challenge, calling it “ridiculous” that Australians were “moaning” about it.

He believed that Finau was becoming an enforcer type of the Kaino mould that should be celebrated.

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“I have an issue that we are talking about it,” Kirwan told The Breakdown on Sky Sport NZ.

“It’s ridiculous that we’re talking about it and it’s ridiculous that someone across the Tasman is moaning about it,”

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“If that was rugby league it’d be on the highlights and everyone would be going ‘how good is it?’

“We’ve been talking about trying to get a new Jerome Kaino since he retired and this guy is going out there trying to be physical.”

Ex-All Black Jeff Wilson said that Finau is treading the line and will have to “live with consequences” if he ends up getting the tackle wrong, either high or way too late.

“I think he’s running a risk if he gets it slightly wrong and he has to live with those consequences,” Jeff Wilson said.

“He knows this but if he gets it slightly wrong there will be consequences but I have no issues with what he’s doing right now.

“Yes he got penalised [against the Reds for being late] but ultimately the contact is legal and the technique is legal.

“If Australia had a big blindside flanker going out and doing this I don’t think we’d be hearing about this.”

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Tristan 205 days ago

One significant tell, not a single Waratahs player stopped to whinge to the ref about Finau’s tackle. They got on with playing the game. Great tackle.

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Red and White Dynamight 206 days ago

hit on Lynagh was defo late and card-worthy. The other 2 are bang on OK. Hurts you at Test level if youre timing is off and the nostrils are flared. Jerry C knew when to lean in on one, Finau just needs to keep his discipline and head straight.

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johnz 206 days ago

It might be legal but he’s sailing pretty close to the wind. Not a lot needs to go wrong for Finau to end up in the bin.
Was it late? Not quite, but borderline.
High? A couple of CM within the laws, no room for error with that one.
Did he wrap the arms? There was a token effort to wrap one arm, the intent was clearly to hit with the shoulder.
So yeah, it’s legal, just. But as we all know, a very slight change in the dynamics could easily have him seeing red. Hopefully not when it really matters.

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MattJH 206 days ago

Can we also show some love for Tane Edmed’s fantastic draw and pass?
Put his body on the line and committed the defender before letting go of that pass.
Flawless skill.

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Cheers 206 days ago

Typical trait of an australian is to moan. Goes well with there lack of humbleness as evident by the Reds bench on the weekend.

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dave 206 days ago

Sensational tackle. The reds one was late and rightly penalised. The other two were simultaneous with the pass. If nitpicking TMOs can’t find fault there clearly isn’t any.

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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