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Jake White: 'What caught myself, and a lot of Bok fans out'

AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND - JULY 15: South Africa line up during The Rugby Championship match between the New Zealand All Blacks and South Africa Springboks at Mt Smart Stadium on July 15, 2023 in Auckland, New Zealand. (Photo by Fiona Goodall/Getty Images)

What caught myself, and a lot of Bok fans out, was this perception prior to the game that just because New Zealand didn’t have the luxury of playing Super Rugby with our franchises in it, that they would somehow lack some intensity and physicality.

The common consensus was that the Springboks could catch them cold when it came to the physicality and tempo of the game. The feeling was that level of competition in the URC and Europe was more competitive than the fare they were used to. The logic being that three out of four New Zealand sides made the semi-finals, with the Brumbies odd one out, and they’d had it easy. Well let me tell you, the exact opposite happened. In that opening quarter, it almost looked like we hadn’t played at their level. We were second best in nearly every facet.

In every area we anticipated we’d be too good for them, they left us trailing.

The second thing – and this is nothing new – is you can never give any All Black side a head start like that. If you’re 17-0 down after 20 minutes, you’re on a hiding to nothing. Full stop. In the history of the Rugby Championship, or its predecessor, the Tri-Nations, it’s highly unlikely that a side chasing a deficit like that will come back and win. Of course, it can happen but it’s not the norm. Granted, the Boks came back into it in the second half, but they deserved to be on the losing side.

What the loss has done is ignite debate about selection. The talk here in South Africa is: ‘Isn’t it time for RG Snyman or Malcolm Marx to start?’ Or, ‘Isn’t it time Kurt-Lee Arendse was unleashed’ or ‘Why isn’t PSDT (Pieter Steph du Toit) starting?’

The drums are beating for the Bomb Squad to start and the court of public opinion is criticising the fact we didn’t compete at the lineout and saying we gave away too many penalties. What would I say to the doubters? It shows what makes rugby such a great game because what it also throws up is questions as to whether the Boks, despite their enormous strength in depth, have held something back. Instead of the narrative that the Boks are too predictable and have nothing up their sleeve, fans are now left playing a guessing game.

One area people aren’t talking about is more fundamental: the defence. You have to go back to October 2018 when they last shipped four tries, against the same opponents, but there were plenty of opportunities for the All Blacks to make the scoreline look even worse, like when Will Jordan knocked the ball on five metres from the try line, or two other opportunities where, from mauled lineouts, they didn’t quite get over the line. Hopefully, it’s an aberration, but we looked vulnerable.

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AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND – JULY 15: Grant Williams of South Africa looks dejected following The Rugby Championship match between the New Zealand All Blacks and South Africa Springboks at Mt Smart Stadium on July 15, 2023 in Auckland, New Zealand. (Photo by Phil Walter/Getty Images)

After seeing what happened in Auckland, I would flip it and say, what about the All Blacks? They were being written off by everyone nine months ago. All the talk was about Scott Robertson taking over immediately, the conclusion that Ian Foster wasn’t up to the job. Well credit to him and the NZRU. They made the difficult decision to let go of John Plumtree and Brad Mooar and they’ve stabilised the ship. Supporters are no longer calling for anyone’s head, but by the same token, no one is pumping up their tyres, which is quite scary with less than six weeks to the World Cup. All the talk is about France and Ireland but the All Blacks are quietly on a roll and no one should be discounting them.

To sum up the All Blacks defeat, Schalk Burger Jnr put it perfectly by saying there will be a lot more momentum gained by the All Blacks than the Boks. Compared to where they were nine months ago, they’ve bounced back.

How the All Blacks were in 2022, reminded me of how we were in 2006 when I was coaching the Springboks. I sensed a lot of relief in Ian Foster’s voice at the press conference. The same goes for Sam Cane. He’s been under the pump over the last 9-12 months, with pundits asking whether he was good enough for the shirt. Captain and coach have been backs to the wall in a rugby-mad country like New Zealand and they’ve emerged stronger for it. No one is questioning their credentials right now, which they must be thrilled about. Ian Foster is a pretty low-key character, pretty dry and down-to-earth, and he’s let his rugby do the talking. Fair play to him.

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Ian Foster speaks to media following the Japan Test. Photo by Kenta Harada/Getty Images

As for the challenge of the Pumas. It doesn’t remotely surprise me that Argentina beat the Wallabies in Sydney. I’m not the only one who has noticed how Australian rugby has gone backwards in recent years.

Having worked with the Brumbies, I saw this coming. They have made cuts to their academy programmes and they’re simply not bringing through the same calibre of player. When Michael Hooper, Will Genia, David Pocock were coming through, you could tell a lot of money had been spent on their development. They used to invest in something called ‘the Gold Squad’, where they spent time, effort and money to give their best players tailored plans. They’d send conditioning and skills coaches around the country to upskill those boys but from what I gather this hasn’t happened for a long, long time. This result isn’t just a one-off, where a new coach hasn’t given them a much-needed boost, there are much deeper problems in Australian rugby.

Saying that, Michael Cheika had immense motivation to beat Australia after the ARU let him go. That gives a coach a certain edge, and he used the motivation with a fiercely passionate Latin team to fire them up. They didn’t just win, they never looked like losing, apart from that intercept a few minutes before time.

So what’s it like facing Argentina? I must tell you that their anthem is much longer than most. You end up seeing that passion up close and they use it as a huge motivating tool, like the All Blacks with the Haka. However, despite the hugs and tears, they now manage it better. In the past, after 20 minutes of fire and brimstone, they’d burn out but now they are an 80-minute side – more professional and cold-blooded.

Over the last few years they have significantly improved their backline. They were known as a forward-orientated team who couldn’t play with width but that’s changed. A guy like Felipe Contepomi, who has brought all that IP from Leinster, is definitely adding to their attacking nous. I can see them getting an upset in France. It suits them. Their players are used to playing there and they have a good pool. If they beat England and Australia, which have done in the last 12 months, you could be looking at a semi-final spot. They did it in 2007, so why not now, when they have a stronger squad? Saying all that, I would still expect the Boks to beat the Pumas on Saturday.

Whatever the result in Johannesburg, and I’m not saying this to be a smartarse, I think the game at Twickenham against the All Blacks will be the proper benchmark for where both teams are. In SA, most people expect us to have enough to overcome Argentina and I genuinely think they could make changes against Wales, but whatever the result of those two games, the big test is to get everything right in TW2. It’s an overseas Test match, so a bit like a World Cup game in that it’s a neutral venue. You’d think Jacques (Nienaber) and Rassie (Erasmus) will go fully loaded for that one.

By then, we should have a clearer idea about the fitness of Siya Kolisi and Handre Pollard. On Pollard, similar to Ireland, they don’t have an experienced 10 right now. Whether it’s Manie Libbok or Damien Willemse starting, they are still unknown entities in knock-out rugby. When did Handre Pollard last play for the Boks? Not since last summer. It’s a long time and a concern.

As for Siya (Kolisi), the coaches are saying he maybe ready for the Wales game but I have my doubts, sadly. His being fit will be more a hope than an expectation. I remember the nation praying for Jean de Villiers, who was so unlucky with World Cup injuries, after rushing back from an ACL injury. I desperately wanted him to play but he has to listen to the medics. Either way, the countdown to the Rugby World Cup is well and truly on.

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Flankly 513 days ago

Jake is sometimes right, and quite inightful. And of course is hugely experienced. But in this case, if he is recommending starting the bomb squad leaders, then I cannot agree.

There is still this idea that teams need to start their best players in each position, despite the obvious fact that the Boks clearly work backwards from how they want to end the game. If your goal is to be in the game at 60m and then roll out a lineup that is purpose-built to exploit tired legs, then you pick the bomb squad first.

NZ did turn this on its head. They targeted the first quarter, and succeeded in opening up a decent lead. Specifically they raised the pace, knowing that the SA starters are picked for power not pace. That left SA with a mountain to climb, and they could not do it. The SA solution does need to focus on shutting down that early assault, but they do not need to raid the bench to do it.

The starters were ponderous and a yard off the pace, and gave NZ too much thinking time - fix that. They were disorganized in defense, partly due to NZ tactics, but there were also just mistakes - fix that. They got (cleverly) beaten in the air, but those tricks are now on tape - fix that. The Boks, uncharacteristically, were beaten in the collisions - fix that. If you tidy that stuff up, with the same personnel, you only go 7 or 10 points down, vs 17 (or more if you think they got lucky). Then the stage is set for the last quarter.

The good news for the Boks is that Argentina will try to follow some of the NZ blueprint, so SA will get some match practice to test their fixes.

Bottom line for me is that you keep the bench the way it is, you tell your (slower) starters to do their best to shut down the early pace attack at source. And you trust that you can create and take your chances in the last 20.

I seriously doubt that Rassie will listen to calls to put Marx, RG and/or PSDT in the starting lineup.

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Pecos 513 days ago

The key difference from the Foster 2019-2022 rubbish era to now was sacking his two main coaches & bringing in Schmidt but more importantly Jase Ryan. Based on results alone, Foster should've been sacked at that time too. What we're now seeing some months later is the fruits of Ryan's impact on the pack, & Schmidt's attack nuances. The ABs are progressing largely in spite of Foster not because of him.

And the criticism of Cane is mostly that he's the invisible man. He's been injured for long periods the past 3 years & once again, was forced off for the whole 2nd half v Boks. This is his regular pattern. His coming & mostly going has not allowed a consistent backrow to embed. This erratic attendance also makes being an efficient & effective skipper an impossibility.

The ABs have always had great athletes since 2019. The major problem was that Foster & his coaching team coached them into mediocrity. Hence the sackings. Interesting & revealing that in a recent article players praised both Ryan & Schmidt, alone.

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007 513 days ago

More expert analysis from Jake White please!
Btw, the Brumbies proficiency at mauling and scoring tries from lineout drives is a legacy of his coaching stint in Canberra.
This is a prime example of how a foreign coach can successfully introduce and imprint new ideas and methods - which is what countless NZ coaches have done in Europe and Asia the past few decades.
The amount of intellectual property we (i.e., New Zealand) have shared abroad - which consequently has bolstered their quality of rugby - has been to the detriment of our domestic game; more so, dare I say it, than the loss of playing talent.

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Jon 513 days ago

I wouldn't be surprised if that the Bok camp did the same thing Jake. Even now I don't think you appreciate the desperation the AB side has to perform at the moment trying to turn their fortunes around. They really where in a state. It would also not be sensible to base a domestic competitions credence on the performance of a national sides coaching staff.

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Jmann 513 days ago

Interesting that such an experienced coach sees the Twickenham game as being a benchmark. Should NZ bank the Bledisloe and the RC this weekend then you can guarantee that the game in London will be more about letting other squad members have a run. NZ won't want to risk their stars nor show their tactics.

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Bob Marler 513 days ago

The All Blacks were very, very good in that opening 20 minutes. And the Boks were very, very poor. Poor structure and poor execution. We barely had the ball.

I agree, Twickenham will be a much better test of where the two leading SH teams are for this World Cup. Losing 4 tries to 3 in Auckland is hardly enough to make any major judgement calls. Nienaber and Erasmus seem hellbent to rotate players, try combinations and give players a chance to make a statement before France.

There’s a lot of talk of trying fringe players against Argentina (again). But I disagree. We need to start building momentum.

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bob 513 days ago

Splendid analysis by experienced coach

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Tom 4 hours ago
Will Bristol's daredevil 'Bears-ball' deliver the trophy they crave?

Also a Bristol fan and echo your sentiments.


I love watching Bristol but their approach will only get them so far I think. Exeter played like this when they first got promoted to the prem and had intermittent success, it wasn't until they wised up and played a more balanced game that they became a consistently top side.


I really want Bristol to continue playing this brand of rugby and I don't mind them running it from under their posts but I don't think they need to do it every single time. They need to be just a little bit more selective about when and where on the pitch they play. Every game they put themselves under so much needless pressure by turning the ball over under their posts trying to do kamikaze moves when it's not required. By all means run it from your goal line if there is a chance for a counter attack, we all want to see Bristol running in 100m tries from under their posts but I think until they learn when to do it and when to be pragmatic, they are unlikely to win the premiership.


Defense has been a real positive from Bristol, they've shown a lot of improvement there... And I will say that I think this kamikaze strategy they employ is a very good one for a struggling side and could be employed by Newcastle. It's seems to have turned around Gloucester's fortunes. The big advantage is even if you don't have the biggest and best players, what you have is cohesion. This is why Scotland keep battering England. England have better individuals but they look muddled as a team, trying to play a mixed strategy under coaches who lack charisma, the team has no identity. Scotland come out and give it full throttle from 1-15 even if they struggle against the top sides, sides like England and Wales who lack that identity drown under the relentless will and synergy of the Scots. If Newcastle did the same they could really surprise some people, I know the weather is bad up there but it hasn't bothered the Scots. Bristol can learn from Scotland too, Pat is on to something when he says the following but Scotland don't play test matches like headless chickens. They still play with the same level of clarity and ambition Bristol do but they are much better at picking their moments. They needed to go back to this mad game to get their cohesion back after a couple of seasons struggling but I hope they get a bit wiser from matches like Leinster and La Rochelle.


“If there’s clarity on what you’re trying to do as a team you can win anything.”

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