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Jake White: Has Nienaber taken a back seat?

Jacques Nienaber, Head Coach of South Africa, speaks with Rassie Erasmus prior to the Rugby World Cup France 2023 match between South Africa and Tonga at Stade Velodrome on October 01, 2023 in Marseille, France. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

Let me tell you a story. In 2007, I was in Marseille preparing the Springboks for the quarter-final game against Fiji. During the week, I saw a few All Blacks coaches that I know.

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One guy was Mick Byrne, their skills and kicking coach. We had a little chat and parted ways. A few days later we bumped into each other again at the Old Port, the night before the quarter-final in Cardiff against France. A few of the staff were still there, so I said, ‘what’s happening, why aren’t you in Cardiff?’ They said, ‘Well, the decision’s been made for some of us to stay behind and prepare for the next week’.

History tells us that there was no next week and they had to fly to meet the squad at Heathrow to fly back to New Zealand. The lesson I took from that is if you start worrying about what happens next week, you won’t get through this week. The bottom line is you can’t do anything that will help you in the future, it’s all about the here and now. That’s why France felt compelled to get Antoine Dupont back on the field.

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I can guarantee you that when Dupont runs out in a scrum-cap, it will be like Madiba (Nelson Mandela) coming out in 1995 in a Springbok jersey. Our slogan in 1995 was, ‘one-team, one country’ and it brought the whole country together. When I see France playing in this tournament, with the singing, chanting and energy in the crowd, it looks a little bit like that. The TV audiences are massive and it feels like the whole country uniting to support Les Bleus. It’s deja vu. I feel like I’ve seen it before.

Do you remember the last words said at the 1995 World Cup final. A broadcaster said to Francois Pienaar, ‘there are 65,000 people here supporting you’, and he said, ‘No, we didn’t have 65,000 South Africans supporting us, we had 43 million South Africans.’ So on Sunday night, we’re not playing a team, we’re playing a nation. That’s the biggest challenge for the Springboks. You can’t underestimate national fervour and pride. If the Boks make it through, they will feel emboldened that they can win the World Cup for a fourth time.

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As someone who has watched every tournament, I told you from day one what an advantage it is to have a home World Cup. From experience, it’s not the people in the stadium that intimidate you. It’s the ones you meet in the restaurants during the week or walking around the villages. Those personal interactions tell how much this means to the locals. Again, it’s like 1995 in South Africa. We opened up the tournament by beating the reigning World Champions, Australia, at Newlands and then we had controversy in the French semi-final before facing the mighty All Blacks in the final. That competition had everything; suspensions, injuries, drama. The lot. The parallels are uncanny.

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Again, the return of Dupont will be a massive inspiration to his team. I can just imagine what it would have felt like in that team room when the doctor cleared him to play. It would have made the players feel an inch taller.

Whether it comes off or not, that’s the risk you take, but 60-70 minutes of Dupont is worth solid gold to France. Even if he has a quiet game, he will inspire players around him.

The interesting thing about this French team is that they are so balanced and dare I say, normal. If you look at Mauvaka, Baille and Atonio, they are as good as any front row in the competition. Jelonch, Alldritt and Ollivon are as good as any back row. Dupont is the best player in the world and not many teams could replace a player of Ntamack’s quality with a player like Jalibert. I’ve also been impressed with the maturity shown by Jonathan Danty and Gael Fickou. They look like they’ve played for years together. Then you have Damien Penaud, who has just turned 27 and is about to break the try-scoring record of the great Serge Blanco. There’s been little fanfare, little glitz, but what a player.

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There’s a historic perception in South Africa that with France you just want to avoid them when they’re in the mood, but correspondingly they can have periods where it goes off-script. Having coached in France that’s a strength and weakness of their psychological make-up. When they say they’re ready, boy are they ready, everything is switched on. Indeed, I coached the Boks against them a few times and we struggled to beat them. They came to South Africa and beat us, and we lost in Paris. However, I also remember asking my old Montpellier team after a mystifying loss and said, ‘What happened?’ and they said, ‘Well, we weren’t ready’. Whether it was lost in translation or whether it was just the mindset wasn’t right, I don’t know, but that inconsistency dogged French sides for decades.

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In saying that, this is a different French team. Having Shaun Edwards in the coaching set-up and Fabien Galthie and Rafa Ibanez, who have both played overseas, ensures there is more of a pragmatism to their play. Gone are the historical tears during the anthems, the hot-headed Latin temperament and mass changes to the team. This is a cool-headed, pragmatic French team who are ice-cold under pressure. That’s the management’s greatest achievement; to get the squad to buy into a different mindset.

As for the Springboks, this week has reminded me of a book called, ‘The Art of War’ by Sun Tzu, and in there, there’s a quote that says, ‘if you react to your enemy you are in a position of weakness.’ I mention this because this week South Africa announced their team later than they usually do.

Keeping the fans waiting until the last minute is a departure from how the Springboks usually do it. They routinely announce the team early, which comes across as, ‘We know what we’re doing, we know what we want, we know how the team is going to play, and it doesn’t matter what the opposition are doing’. This week, however, it’s been mind games, Rassie’s been on social media toying with a 7-1, 8-0 split and now we see it’s a 5-3 split. I think the French probably expected a bit of fun and games but I’m not sure if the delay works. We will only find out on Sunday night.

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What has been interesting is that Rassie has spoken more in the last two weeks than he has in the last four years. I don’t know how Jacques feels about it because you don’t hear much from him, but maybe it’s a tactic to keep Rassie at the forefront. It feels like as the heat has come on, he’s in the driving seat and Jacques has taken the back seat.

Selection-wise, I see the Boks have gone back to the tried and tested. He’s gone for Cobus Reinach, who has experience of playing in France but that experience but on the bench he has Handre Pollard, Willie Le Roux and Faf de Klerk to close out the game, which is massive. You sense that all the social media comments were just a smokescreen to take the focus off the Boks, to leave them to prepare.

One thing in the Boks’ favour is experience. When I coached in 2007, and I told the squad, ‘You’re going to win the World Cup’. I said, ‘Look at Os du Randt, he has won this magnificent tournament’. It was all talk until 20 minutes before kick-off when I saw in their eyes them thinking, ‘he’s won this before, what a massive achievement’.

It’s then you realise what it means to those who want their own piece of history, but then I said, ‘We have one winner, but England have about 13 World Cup winners in their squad and that’s who we’re facing tonight’. I’d say don’t underestimate the value of the experience South Africa have in that changing room. Players who have been there and done it. I don’t think South Africa are worried, because in all but name, this is a World Cup Final, but that home fervour could just swing it for Les Bleus. Whatever happens, it will be a game for the ages.

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Gerald 433 days ago

Jake, zip it and go back and coach the Bulls properly. You and Eddie Jones are coaching capitalists who use past ‘success’ to find jobs without staying long enough to be accountable for the results. Keep quiet and leave those who are coaching properly to get on with it.

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Red and White Dynamight 434 days ago

I wasnt aware he ever took the front seat. Is he the waterboy to The Waterboy ?

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Kabous 434 days ago

I think why Rassie is so much in the fore front is to protect his staff and players. Pretty much how Eddie Jones advised Jake in 2007 to be vocal and in front to to take the heat of his team. Funny that Jake all forgot about that…

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Louis 434 days ago

How much do you pay old Jake for this shite?

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AG 434 days ago

I think the comment that Jacques has taken a back seat, now that ‘the heat is on’ is unwarranted and a bit of clickbait. Rassie is simply allowing the coach to focus on coaching and preparing the team. Going to be a great game. Go boks.

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Nigel 434 days ago

The clown Erasmus's mini me was never anything but a buffer boy for his endless inane, cry baby bleats. Nienaber has the rugby pedigree equivalent to a street cat (and that’s probably a huge insult to street cats, at least they have self esteem).

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CT 434 days ago

Good read thanks,I feel the Boks are going to grab a last minute victory

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Giannis 434 days ago

¨0¨ and Gael Fickou. They look like they’ve played for years together.
Yes three years in Stade Français. 🙄

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GrahamVF 23 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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