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George on England's next world-class star and why Farrell is rugby's GOAT

Owen Farrell and Jamie George (Photo by Paul Harding/Getty Images)

England captain Jamie George is a firm believer that his former team-mate Owen Farrell is the greatest rugby player of all time and is adamant that the fly-half has the stats to back up that claim.

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The 15-year partnership between the hooker and the fly-half for both Saracens and England came to an end this summer with Farrell’s move to Racing 92 in the Top 14, closing the book on years of success in north London.

It is because of that success in both the black of Saracens and the white of England that George feels his former England captain is the GOAT.

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The 93-cap international expressed this view on Danny Care’s Hits Different podcast, where he said that Saracens would not have won anything without Farrell.

“I genuinely think who should be in the conversation is Owen Farrell,” George said when discussing rugby’s GOAT.

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“I just think you’ve got to look at what he’s won, what he’s done in the game, I don’t know many other players that have done it domestically and internationally the way that he has.

“So he’s done six Prems, three Europeans, 112 England caps, however many as captain, three Lions tours.

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“It’s just ridiculous really, and I can confidently say that Sarries wouldn’t have won anything if he wasn’t playing.”

The No 10 was recruited to the Parisian giants to emulate the kind of success he has enjoyed at the StoneX Stadium, but a question mark remains as to whether he will ever win more silverware with England, as the 33-year-old is currently ineligible to represent his country.

He may get a taste of international rugby again at the end of this season though, with the British & Irish Lions set to tour Australia, with Andy Farrell head coach.

Farrell is just one of the many world-class players George has played alongside in his career, and he believes plenty more are going to emerge for England.

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The hooker highlighted his current England team-mate Tommy Freeman as a player who is close to being world-class and will ascend to that echelon in the near future.

The eleven-cap 23-year-old has established himself as one of England’s starting wings in 2024, although his captain believes he had not “pieced it together” earlier in his career. Things have changed though, and the Northampton Saint is now part of the young contingent spearheading this new-look England team under Steve Borthwick.

“He’s been around for quite a while but I think Tommy Freeman is close to being world-class,” George said on the podcast.

“He’s so lovable, he’s such a great guy, but he is quite a bit of a space cadet at times.

“When he first played, you think ‘this guy’s huge, athletic’ but he hadn’t really quite pieced it together. Now, you put him up against the majority of wingers in the world and you’d be very happy in a one-on-one situation.

“So I think he genuinely is close to being world-class.”

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DP 45 days ago

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

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Cosmo 46 days ago

Goat you say ??


* Ghastly

* Outrageous

* At

* Tackling


How he got away with it for years is a mystery 🥴

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Bull Shark 47 days ago

Now we’re just scraping the barrell.

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Lulu 47 days ago

Pretending to get injured when he has committed a illegal tackle.


Dan Carter

Johhy Wilkerson

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dk 47 days ago

He's definitely the GOAT at escaping the judiciary unscathed, that's for sure. Other than that a good solid player by UK standards.

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Andrew Nichols 47 days ago

Farrell GOAT...not even close. Even if he were to be as skilled as DC his disciplinary record and thuggery sets him apart. Carter is the GOAT

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fl 47 days ago

He's right about Freeman, wrong about Farrell.

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Bull Shark 47 days ago

What? That since making his debut 3 years ago for England, Freeman has only earned 11 caps for England, and isn’t world class?

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Tom 47 days ago

Lol...

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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