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Japan could tip over All Blacks in ambush warns former Top League player

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Former Highlanders lock Joey Wheeler has warned the All Blacks over what awaits the side on the first match of the Northern Tour when they head to Japan to take on the Brave Blossoms in Tokyo.

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Wheeler played under current Japan national coach Jamie Joseph at the Highlanders and has ties to Japanese rugby through his five seasons in the formerly named Japan Top League with Suntory Sungoliath.

The former Maori All Black believes that Japan are planning an ambush for Foster’s side after planning extensively the entire year for this contest.

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“The Japanese test is the obvious one, the first test on the end-of-year tour,” the former Highlanders lock told Sky Sport NZ’s The Breakdown.

“That’s nervewracking for me as well. This Japanese team, I know for a fact they’ve been preparing themselves all year for this one test match.

“They’ve had two test matches against France in the lead-up, they’ve had two test matches against Australia ‘A’ in the last two weeks.”

Japan have been giant killers on the international stage at the last two World Cups, shocking South Africa in 2015 with a 34-32 win whilst at their home World Cup in 2019 they sent Scotland reeling out of the tournament in the pool stages and upset Ireland.

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Should they become the latest side to beat the All Blacks they will earn a significant piece of history with a first ever win over New Zealand.

Their hopes lie on the All Blacks running out an experimental side according to Wheeler, which Japan are expecting.

“They are priming themselves to have a real crack at the All Blacks, with the expectation they’re going to play their supposed ‘B’ team,” Wheeler said.

“They’re thinking, ‘This is our one chance to knock over the All Blacks and create a bit of history for the Japanese’.

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“We know, after what they did in the 2019 World Cup, they’re not a walkover like they used to be.”

Japan and New Zealand have only played four times at the international level, with the All Blacks winning all four comfortably.

They first met at the 1995 World Cup where New Zealand put up a record 145-17 win, while their last clash in 2018 saw a 69-31 win over what was called a ‘B’ side as the top squad was sent to Europe early.

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Willie 802 days ago

There is some rubbish being written. After the season the ABs have had there is no way Foster will take his eye off the ball in this game.

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David 802 days ago

it could happen who would have thought argentina would beat us remember world cup 2015 and world cup 2019 japan have improved

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GrahamVF 27 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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