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Jimmy Gopperth and George Kruis assess what the law changes will mean

Jimmy Gopperth scores at Worcester (Photo by Nathan Stirk/Getty Images)

The impact of the goal-line drop-out and 50:22 on the Gallagher Premiership are yet to be seen – but two of the competition’s most experienced names believe both law changes will have an impact.

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England’s British & Irish Lions lock George Kruis played nearly 200 games for Saracens before departing for Japanese champions Wild Knights.

During this time he developed a reputation as one of the sport’s top lineout operators, and he believes both attacking and defensive options will change as a result of World Rugby’s recent law amendment.

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“The goal-line drop out is an interesting one as I’m sure it will have an effect on how teams look to approach lineout attack,” he said.

“The law change should open the game up a little and I’m fairly sure it will get quicker and less predictable as a result.

“Those teams who are very good at the lineout drive will probably stick with it, but if you’re less strong you may look at other options instead.

“The lineout drive isn’t as big a thing in Japan as in the UK where it has won games for sides for a number of years.

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“As ever, the teams that adapt quickest and are best coached will end up doing well.

“In time I’m sure coaches will develop something else to replace it and in turn that will then be looked at further down the line for more law changes.”

Wasps’ veteran fly half Jimmy Gopperth has already seen his team concede a try direct from a defensive goal-line drop out in their pre-season derby game against Championship outfit Coventry.

And the 38-year-old admits it has provided plenty of training ground food for thought ahead of the new Premiership season.

“The goal-line drop out gives plenty of options around looking to win the ball back or perhaps taking a quick one or looking for territory,” he said.

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“We’re currently looking at options both when we have possession and how best to defend against it and what to do when the ball is kicked to us.”

Gopperth believes the 50:22 will have less impact, but warns against viewing last summer’s Super Rugby as a representative trial for rugby played in the Northern Hemisphere winter.

“In Super Rugby there has only been three 50:22’s in the whole competition but I expect there will be more in the Premiership where we tend to have more kicking,” he said.

“We’ve talked about how to defend it and it’s important to remember it only applies when teams are in their own half so once they’re over that line you can go back to normal defence.

“The hardest place to defend it is from a turnover when one team thinks they’re on the attack and have left their backfield empty, so we may see opportunities in that situation.”

Law makers aim to create more attacking space with the 50:22 since they believe wingers will need to sit deeper to protect the touchlines.

Gopperth agrees with this line of thinking and says traditionally attack-minded Wasps will seek to exploit this whenever possible.

“When we’re doing our kicking practice we always look at angles and finding corners so we’re continuing with that,” he said.

“To be honest our first thought is to look at running into any spaces created by defenders dropping back rather than kicking.”

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fl 40 minutes ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

"fl's idea, if I can speak for him to speed things up, was for it to be semifinalists first, Champions Cup (any that somehow didn't make a league semi), then Challenge's semi finalists (which would most certainly have been outside their league semi's you'd think), then perhaps the quarter finalists of each in the same manner. I don't think he was suggesting whoever next performed best in Europe but didn't make those knockouts (like those round of 16 losers), I doubt that would ever happen."


That's not quite my idea.

For a 20 team champions cup I'd have 4 teams qualify from the previous years champions cup, and 4 from the previous years challenge cup. For a 16 team champions cup I'd have 3 teams qualify from the previous years champions cup, and 1 from the previous years challenge cup.


"The problem I mainly saw with his idea (much the same as you see, that league finish is a better indicator) is that you could have one of the best candidates lose in the quarters to the eventual champions, and so miss out for someone who got an easier ride, and also finished lower in the league, perhaps in their own league, and who you beat everytime."

If teams get a tough draw in the challenge cup quarters, they should have won more pool games and so got better seeding. My system is less about finding the best teams, and more about finding the teams who perform at the highest level in european competition.

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fl 1 hour ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

"Would I'd be think"

Would I'd be think.


"Well that's one starting point for an error in your reasoning. Do you think that in regards to who should have a say in how it's setup in the future as well? Ie you would care what they think or what might be more fair for their teams (not saying your model doesn't allow them a chance)?"

Did you even read what you're replying to? I wasn't arguing for excluding south africa, I was pointing out that the idea of quantifying someone's fractional share of european rugby is entirely nonsensical. You're the one who was trying to do that.


"Yes, I was thinking about an automatic qualifier for a tier 2 side"

What proportion of european rugby are they though? Got to make sure those fractions match up! 😂


"Ultimately what I think would be better for t2 leagues would be a third comp underneath the top two tournemnts where they play a fair chunk of games, like double those two. So half a dozen euro teams along with the 2 SA and bottom bunch of premiership and top14, some Championship and div 2 sides thrown in."

I don't know if Championship sides want to be commuting to Georgia every other week.


"my thought was just to create a middle ground now which can sustain it until that time has come, were I thought yours is more likely to result in the constant change/manipulation it has been victim to"

a middle ground between the current system and a much worse system?

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fl 1 hour ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

"Huh? You mean last in their (4 team) pools/regions? My idea was 6/5/4, 6 the max, for guarenteed spots, with a 20 team comp max, so upto 5 WCs (which you'd make/or would be theoretically impossible to go to one league (they'd likely be solely for its participants, say 'Wales', rather than URC specifically. Preferrably). I gave 3 WC ideas for a 18 team comp, so the max URC could have (with a member union or club/team, winning all of the 6N, and Champions and Challenge Cup) would be 9."


That's a lot of words to say that I was right. If (e.g.) Glasgow won the URC and Edinburgh finished 16th, but Scotland won the six nations, Edinburgh would qualify for the Champions Cup under your system.


"And the reason say another URC (for example) member would get the spot over the other team that won the Challenge Cup, would be because they were arguable better if they finished higher in the League."

They would be arguably worse if they didn't win the Challenge Cup.


"It won't diminish desire to win the Challenge Cup, because that team may still be competing for that seed, and if theyre automatic qual anyway, it still might make them treat it more seriously"

This doesn't make sense. Giving more incentives to do well in the Challenge Cup will make people take it more seriously. My system does that and yours doesn't. Under my system, teams will "compete for the seed" by winning the Challenge Cup, under yours they won't. If a team is automatically qualified anyway why on earth would that make them treat it more seriously?


"I'm promoting the idea of a scheme that never needs to be changed again"

So am I. I'm suggesting that places could be allocated according to a UEFA style points sytem, or according to a system where each league gets 1/4 of the spots, and the remaining 1/4 go to the best performing teams from the previous season in european competition.


"Yours will promote outcry as soon as England (or any other participant) fluctates. Were as it's hard to argue about a the basis of an equal share."

Currently there is an equal share, and you are arguing against it. My system would give each side the opportunity to achieve an equal share, but with more places given to sides and leagues that perform well. This wouldn't promote outcry, it would promote teams to take european competition more seriously. Teams that lose out because they did poorly the previous year wouldn't have any grounds to complain, they would be incentivised to try harder this time around.


"This new system should not be based on the assumption of last years results/performances continuing."

That's not the assumption I'm making. I don't think the teams that perform better should be given places in the competition because they will be the best performing teams next year, but because sport should be based on merit, and teams should be rewarded for performing well.


"I'm specifically promoting my idea because I think it will do exactly what you want, increase european rugyb's importance."

how?


"I won't say I've done anything compressive"

Compressive.

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