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Joe Schmidt hints at Bledisloe Cup rethink

Wallabies head coach Joe Schmidt looks on from the coaching box during The Rugby Championship & Bledisloe Cup match between Australia Wallabies and New Zealand All Blacks at Accor Stadium on September 21, 2024 in Sydney, Australia. (Photo by Matt King/Getty Images)

Wallabies coach Joe Schmidt wouldn’t mind officials rethinking the Bledisloe Cup format after watching the treasured trophy slip out of Australia’s grasp once more.

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A gut-wrenching 31-28 loss in Sydney leaves the Wallabies playing for pride and no silverware in next Saturday’s return bout in Wellington.

The coveted Cup will remain in New Zealand for a 23rd straight year regardless of the result at Sky Stadium because the Wallabies need to win a series to get the trophy back.

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Joe Schmidt and Harry Wilson dissect the Wallabies loss to the All Blacks

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Joe Schmidt and Harry Wilson dissect the Wallabies loss to the All Blacks

That’s very difficult in a two-match series split in Australia and New Zealand, especially when the Wallabies haven’t won across the Tasman since 2001.

A drawn series isn’t good enough, as four of Schmidt’s predecessors have also learnt the hard way.

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The Wallabies drew the 2004 series under Eddie Jones, as well as 2007 (John Connolly), 2011 (Robbie Deans) and in 2015 and 2019 (Michael Cheika).

Yet each time the Bledisloe Cup remained in New Zealand, as it will again.

Without outright calling for an overhaul of the rules, Kiwi Schmidt reckons it’s a shame the Wallabies have no chance to reclaim the trophy for the first time since 2002 even with a big win in the New Zealand capital.

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“I was pretty happy with the arrangement last year and the year before, but now I’m not so happy about that arrangement,” Schmidt said when asked if a one-off Test match or three-game series would be fairer than two matches.

“We’d love it to be still alive. I think the people, the public in Wellington (would too).

“It’s sold out and it would be a cracking atmosphere but if there was something live on the game, it would be great.

“So that’s something that other people make decisions about.”

The Wallabies might well have had one hand on the trophy if not for a diabolical start in game one at Accor Stadium on Saturday.

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They trailed 21-0 inside 15 minutes after conceding tries to Will Jordan, Rieko Ioane and Caleb Clarke.

Ardie Savea added New Zealand’s fourth in the 24th minute but couldn’t cross again for the rest of the match, leaving Schmidt and Wallabies captain Harry Wilson frustrated.

“We got close tonight, but not close enough so there’s a lot of motivation for us next week,” Wilson said.

“We need to start better. We can’t really give a team like New Zealand that head start.

“We’re really proud of the way we work back into the game and put ourselves in a position where we could have won it there at the end.

“So we took the positive from that but, in saying that we, we just lost to the Kiwis so we’ve got to be realistic.

Scott Barrett.Scott Barrett celebrates another Bledisloe Cup triumph with teammates. (James Gourley/AAP PHOTOS)
“We’ll take our learnings from tonight and we’ll train hard during the week and we’ll make sure we come out and be ready to have a red-hot crack there in Wellington.”

While All Blacks coach Scott Robertson was relieved his side ultimately “found a way” to win despite bombing seven tries, including three overturned by the TMO, Schmidt conceded the end scoreline somewhat flattered the Wallabies.

“There’s not a lot of water in the glass,” Schmidt said.

“You lose a Test match so, as Harry said, there’s things that we’ve got to learn from. We can’t finish a close second.

“There’s some things to be proud about and I totally agree with Harry around building our way back into the game, but giving a New Zealand side a start like that, it’s too tough to overcome that.”

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Warren 184 days ago

Could a drawn series mean the cup can't be kept by the holder? The excitement is kept, the challenge is rewarded, the standard is raised, and fans will love it with no calender congestion. Just tagging on here, does anyone think that culturally English refs are working against the tide. The headmaster thing turns it all into a very weird performance of competence. Surely we deserve more. I always feel they create results and hold grudges. The TMO time is hugely increased, and English refs don't mind a 10 minute referral. Champions Cup Final anyone? I'm not making this comment facetiously, but rugby is losing customers because of this. Loads of good refs out there, can we get rid of these parking wardens please before the delicate customer/market ecosystem is irreparably damaged. To link with the earlier point, conservatism is very bad for rugby's health. More self awareness please...

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JH 185 days ago

3 of the 5 years of Aussies 'golden period' of the late 90s/early 2000s were 1-1 ties too.


The moment they lost the Cup, John O'Neill pushed for a 3 Test series. It didn't help then either. 2 is fine, the calendar is crowded enough as it is.

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OJohn 185 days ago

Just go home Schmidt. Oh that's right, you're already there .......

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DC 185 days ago

well how about having 2 tests and if its 1 all then maybe another test

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Rooksie 185 days ago

When they going to fit a 3rd game in bro ..think the games are planned months if not years in advance plus it's part of the rugby championship..but if we lose the cup then I be right behind yours and Joe's idea 💡 😀 😉 👍

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JW 186 days ago

I wouldn't like to see any change, I think theyve already brought scoring systems into a few other 'cups' to make them more contestable. You hold the Bledisloe until they other team is better than you, simple.


Great couple of games this weekend, what a competition. Turned a bit messy and confrontational - but some like that style - in the heart of Argentina, but credit to South Africa, I thought the young side turned up well, Los Pumas just had the best of the last 10minutes.


It felt like there were 70 thousand fans in Santiago del Estro and 40 thousand fans in Sydny. Still another ripper of a game and comeback by Australia though. Ardie has picked up a bit of slack for a little less workrate coming back from Japan and JRLO (must be 16 months of footy without much rest by now) but he bossed a couple of moments at the end, throwing people around. It was closer than I thought it would be but I still felt at 52min there was a perfect opportunity to rest Taylor, but they kept him on another 10min. You keep doing this time him and it's going to backfire sooner or later. Also not happy with Ratima being subbed well before the end, but at least TJ didn't cause a noticeable drop in standards. Improved bench usage by Razor for me and that might have held them on.


Dmac was like a kid in a candy shop that game though. The coaching really needs to do something about the backlines depth alignment, Dmac had way too much time on his hands and too many 'pictures' in front of him he didn't keep the game simple enough. Otherwise he had some brilliant involvements as usual, along with Jordan.


Being so depth for a rush attack should only be something they are asked to be flexible in doing, when it's needed. Otherwise, I feel like the attack line should always be trying to play in the face of the defence, and Australia were always going to be fairly passive and there was no flexibility in changing that attacking picture when they found themselves being predictable with their running lines. It wasn't helped by players still finding weak shoulders and busting through the D though.

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Rooksie 185 days ago

Tj made a couple of try saving tackles when we were down a man or 2 ..thought it's the best game I seen from him in a long time ..pity he didn't play like that all the time ..plus he's awesome leading the Haka...I must be missing something because I reckon Dmac has a shit game every game ..didn't see him do anything grand..just stuff up Jordie and Reiko alongside him ..gd game but ..saw what this ab side can do in first 20 minutes they were awesome but then ..I reckon dmac is the problem..he just seems to drift along..anyway it's just my opinion

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JWH 5 hours ago
'Matches between Les Bleus and the All Blacks are rarely for the faint-hearted.'

Do you hear yourself? Do you have any concept of world view? Have you tried looking into why people call Ireland ‘arrogant’? Obviously not.


We started calling you arrogant when you called our captain a ‘shit Richie McCaw’. In New Zealand. On our turf. Don’t think that kind of behaviour really calls for respect, does it.


NZ don’t really talk ourselves up, if anything the rugby does it for us. No kiwi goes in the media and says: ‘We are gonna win the RWC’. However, I have found many instance of IRISH media saying that the Irish should win, without a doubt. THAT is disrespectful.


The All Blacks have played good rugby, even some of the best rugby ever, at many points in history, but I don’t think you could find a single instance of one of those players, or the NZ media, saying that they should whitewash their opponents. Ever.


Now, onto your analysis. Ireland DID choke the QF. They beat the champions, they were ranked first coming into it, a lot of players at the peaks of their powers. Its hard to say that they didn’t choke. Obviously, their preparation was just not as good as NZ, and thats all there really is to it.


If Ireland had repsected that ABs team and that QF more, maybe they would’ve prepared properly for it and won. But they didn’t.


Maybe if Ireland had won their QF last RWC, they wouldn’t have to be in the same pool as SA and Scotland. I mean, its called a draw for a reason. NZ got third last RWC, so of course they should get a reasonable pool, and they were ranked pretty highly too. If you want to talk about easy pools, look no further than Pool 3 with England, Australia, Fiji, and Georgia I think?


Now, obviously you don’t remember how that QF ended, so I’ll go ahead and rectify that. Ireland reclaimed the ball off kickoff and marched for 20ish phases into the opposition half. Savea then won a turnover, but the referee refused to give it, so play went on. Finally, at the NZ 22, after not giving up a single penatly in 25 phases of hard defense, Sam Whitelock, the most capped All Black of all time, wins the game with an incredible steal.


Now, NZ players having a go at Ireland. Do you cry when you get hit after making the first swing? We all know Sexton is a prick on the field, its just the truth. And Ioane never backs down from a clash, so he thought he should humble a player who has never won an international knockout game who thought he was all that. Don’t really see the issue, its poetic justice really.

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