Winger suffers 'nasty' injury as Bath count cost of win

What makes you think the chance is lost?

I think even one World Cup in the next 12 years would be incredible.

I personally think that part of why most people don’t like Ireland is that 20 years ago we were the whipping boys of Europe and the world, our record against Namibia is 2-2 I think or a 50% win rate for gods sake. It’s easier to respect England and France because they’ve generally been the best of the north even when they weren’t great but Ireland are new to the top tier in the last 10 years. To go from beating the same team 60-0 or something like that to losing to them 4 years later and again 2 years after that to then losing a home series for the first time in the professional era to the team they wiped the floor with a decade previously must be really hard to take.

A lot of talk of arrogance as well that all Irish fans are arrogant don’t realise that we’re still not used to being good, but at the same time mixed in are a new generation that don’t remember us not being good. In the same way some kiwis probably don’t remember pre 2010 it’s strange.

Anyway sorry for the ramble, the idiocy in some of these comments is staggering just wanted to say my bit on it anyway because I think what’s lost on the southern hemisphere is that to us this Ireland team for the last 3 years or so is and has been truly incredible doing things we’ve never thought possible. We’re really happy and content with where we are in a lot of ways so it can be quite upsetting when outsiders come in and say well you’re not actually good because you haven’t done this this and that. Again sorry for the ramble.

The one failure that makes this a B (possibly B- i'm just thinking of this now) is that they didn't appear up for it and ready for Argentina. Is this Razor not realizing the failures (difficulties with this group of players) of Fosters era and putting enough things in place, or was it despite a concerted effort by staff to get them ready the same group of players (as couldn't backup wins under Foster) were lazy and most importantly, not able to switch on and but things right within the 80 minutes?

Roigard is going to be the main tactical kicker once he returns, so if Ratima comes on late, it can be along side someone like Jordie or Beauden. I really like the look of this less kicking game, how many did they kick on the weekend?

It was predictable mate. It's all a matter of perspective when comparing him to those other two. He has been leading the backline in there all important attacking shape (you can't expect him to solve every deficiency immediately with regards to tactical kicking etc, which he was the best at in SR), and that was very evident by the turn around in play compared to Barrett in the weekend.

Still a lot to work on of course, as is the case for those other two as well.

I'm happy to see whatever change in the loosies they want to go with, but the most imperative change is that Ardie is no longer the go to 8. Whatever they do with him, they are NOT going to unlock all the possibilities if he is continually selected to start at 8.

He was purely undervalued, both in his influence and monetarily when he signed compared to how he played in 2023.

He's had more than enough youngster in camp, Sititi, Love, Bell, Hotham, any more and it would be a negative. Plus the other massive changes in the team.

You're obviously an off the plot razor hater.

Could have just been the cameras.

There are a few Kiwi-Irish in Ireland's set up (only one started in our win over SA in Durban), but our culture is not arrogant, those are great lads. We also don't tolerate wife beaters or rapists in our team. The Kiwi-Irish will be amongst the most ferocious in putting NZ down in Dublin, dont worry!

"Unforgiveable" did your dictionary go missing today, OJohn?