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John Kirwan names his first choice All Black team 'cleaning house' of Crusaders players

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Former All Black wing John Kirwan has shared his first choice All Blacks lineup for 2022 which includes a number of changes for the side that lost to France in Paris last November.

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Speaking on Sky Sport NZ’s The Breakdown, Kirwan offered up his team for discussion based on early Super Rugby Pacific form.

Kirwan made sweeping changes and removed all but one Crusaders player out of the All Black backline, with Richie Mo’unga, David Havili, George Bridge and Sevu Reece all missing out. Of the omissions, only Havili was able to secure a bench spot.

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Only one Crusader, the in-form Will Jordan, found a place on the right wing while the Blues combination of Beauden Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck and Rieko Ioane took the 10-11-12-13 roles.

Aaron Smith starts at halfback while Hurricanes second five-slash-fullback Jordie Barrett retained his place in the 15 jersey.

Finlay Christie was selected to back up Smith on the bench, while Damian McKenzie returned to play a utility role along with Havili.

Despite Joe Moody’s season-ending injury being confirmed today, Kirwan already made the decision to go with his Crusaders teammate George Bower as the starting loosehead prop alongside Codie Taylor and Ofa Tuungafasi in the front row.

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The established pair of Sam Whitelock and Brodie Retallick were unsurprisingly selected to pack down at lock but in a big omission, Scott Barrett was unable to secure a position on the bench. Instead, Ethan Blackadder and Tupou Vaa’i are to provide loose forward/lock cover.

In the loose forwards, Blues captain Dalton Papalii was named to start at blindside in the 6 jersey, joining Sam Cane at 7 and Ardie Savea No 8 respectively. Moving Papalii to 6 put three opensides across the All Black back row.

“Let’s start with the Dalton Papalii one,” panelist Jeff Wilson said.

“You have been forever not wanting to play guys out of position, he’s an openside flanker.

“So why in the world have you taken a guy that you’ve already said is always a seven and you’ve decided to move him to 6?

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“Are we looking for specialists or can Dalton Papalii be an international six?”

Former All Black No 8 Stephen Bates backed Papalii to give the role a crack, but said that he is currently the best New Zealand has at openside, based on his form with the Blues this year.

“I think he can be an international seven, he’s the best seven in the country at the moment, playing the best rugby,” Bates responded.

“I think Dalton can play 6 at a pinch, great bench player as well, but I think he’s best position is 7.”

Kirwan’s thinking around Papalii at six centred around having an enforcer in the role like former All Black Jerome Kaino but that would put pressure on the All Blacks set piece.

“For the last 257 days of doing this show we’ve been saying we need a Jerome Kaino, we need a 6 that is going to smash people,” Kirwan said.

“Someone who is going to work really hard and carry the ball hard.”

Wilson highlighted that having Papalii at blindside would make things difficult for the All Blacks at lineout time, to which Bates agreed.

“I will go with Jeff here, the one thing you are doing there is putting a lot of pressure on Sam Whitelock and Brodie Retallick to win lineouts. I know Ardie jumps occasionally, Sam Cane jumped a little bit this week, and Dalton jumps occasionally,” he said.

“But a lot of blindside flankers these days in international rugby, remember who won the World Cup, are big tall men.”

John Kirwan’s early 2022 All Blacks side:

1. George Bower
2. Codie Taylor
3. Ofa Tuungafasi
4. Brodie Retallick
5. Sam Whitelock
6. Dalton Papalii
7. Sam Cane
8. Ardie Savea
9. Aaron Smith
10. Beauden Barrett
11. Caleb Clarke
12. Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
13. Rieko Ioane
14. Will Jordan
15. Jordie Barrett

Reserves

16. Samisoni Taukei’aho
17. Angus Ta’avao
18. TBA
19. Ethan Blackadder
20. Tupou Vaa’i
21. Findlay Christie
22. David Havili
23. Damian McKenzie

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Mike 763 days ago

The worst coach in world rugby history who destroyed Japan, destroyed Italy, and turned the Auckland Blues into a laughing stock but he has the arrogance to publish his ongoing incompetency with this selection disaster.
The guy is an arrogant clown who never learnt to STFU.

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Jamie 2 892 days ago

John Kirwan admitted on Breakdown a few months ago that he was a terrible coach for the Blues, so his AB picks could be taken with a pinch of salt, I suspect that most of The Breakdown panel would be just as successful as the AB selectors are right now if they had the job of national team selection, but they wont be putting their jobs on the line.

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Flatcoat 938 days ago

Worst Coach the Blues ever had. Clueless...

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Michael 943 days ago

Tom Robinson at 6, great lineout jumper as well, can slot into lock.
Sevu Reece without doubt on wing
T J before Christie, he earns alot of ball out of the refs
Ekland before Taylor

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Graeme 956 days ago

It's a good thing a JK selected ABs will never take the field. Sam Kane though could be the surprise omission at some point. With his propensity for injury & the compelling form of others could force a change.

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Ian 958 days ago

I have said it before, John Kirwin always favours north island players, predominantly those from the Blues. It is probably a relief that he is not the ABs coach.

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Mark 958 days ago

No No No! We need desperately to have big bodies in our pack. I would try Tupou Vaii at 6 as well as Arika Ioane. Cullen Grace at 8 with perhaps Scott Barrett covering 8/lock on the bench. Dalton Papalii plays the first half at 7 and Ardie Savea plays the second half at 7…not 8! Reiko Ioane and jake Goodhue in the centres. No to Damian MacKenzie.

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Shane 959 days ago

That team jk has selected will get smashed with eaze

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josh 990 days ago

Wtf is Kirwan smoking he attacking like blues backs are killing everyone they not and it's the all blacks not the blues lol 🤣 ,Kirwan stop S***ING blues d*** lol ,

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GARTH 991 days ago

Kirwan was useless as a coach and he is heading down the same track with his selections, he cannot see past the blues and chiefs. I dare say he would even have a problem picking his nose. Thank god he is not a selector although he an Foster would probably stuff up the divisional selecting as well.

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JW 37 minutes ago
How law changes are speeding up the game - but the scrum lags behind

Too much to deal with in one reply JW!

No problem, I hope it wasn't too hard a read and thanks for replying. As always, just throwing ideas out for there for others to contemplate.


Well fatigue was actually my first and main point! I just want others to come to that conclusion themselves rather than just feeding it to them lol


I can accept that South Africa have a ball in play stat that correlates with a lower fitness/higher strength team, but I don't necessarily buy the argument that one automatically leads to the other. I'd suspect their two stats (high restart numbers low BIPs) likely have separate causes.


Graham made a great point about crescendos. These are what people call momentum swings these days. The build up in fatigue is a momentum swing. The sweeping of the ball down the field in multiple phases is a momentum swing. What is important is that these are far too easily stopped by fake injuries or timely replacements, and that they can happen regularly enough that extending game time (through stopping the clock) becomes irrelevant. It has always been case that to create fatigue play needs to be continuous. What matters is the Work to Rest ratio exceeding 70 secs and still being consistent at the ends of games.


Qualities in bench changes have a different effect, but as their use has become quite adept over time, not so insignificant changes that they should be ignored, I agree. The main problem however is that teams can't dictate the speed of the game, as in, any team can dictate how slow it becomes if they really want to, but the team in possession (they should even have some capability to keep the pace up when not in possession) are too easily foiled when the want to play with a high tempo.

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