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Johnny Sexton was asked how he rates current All Blacks team

New Zealand's hooker Dane Coles (L) shakes hands with Ireland's fly-half Jonathan Sexton (*R) after the France 2023 Rugby World Cup quarter-final match between Ireland and New Zealand at the Stade de France in Saint-Denis, on the outskirts of Paris, on October 14, 2023. (Photo by Emmanuel Dunand / AFP) (Photo by EMMANUEL DUNAND/AFP via Getty Images)

Ireland standoff Johnny Sexton was asked how he rated this crop of All Blacks, who have shipped their fair share of criticism over the course of the last 18 months, and he gave a fascinating response.

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The New Zealanders did enough to derail the Irish rugby juggernaut, a 28-24 win ending the men in green’s tournament once again at the quarter-final hurdle.

Ian Foster’s men disposed of what has become their bete noir in recent seasons in a rollercoaster arm wrestle, a victory that has also sent Irish icon Sexton into retirement.

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Sexton – who was spotted shaking hands with 2022 verbal sparring partner Dane Coles – was asked for his opinion of the current All Blacks side, one which he has faced on multiple occasions.

“The All Blacks judge themselves on winning World Cups, don’t they? So time will tell how good this team is,” said Sexton in the post-match press conference at the Stade de France.

“Time will tell but they’ve got some outstanding players, they’re well coached. Obviously, improved a lot since Joe (Schmidt, assistant coach) and (Jason) Ryan has gone in as forwards coach.

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“They are clearly on the up, they’ve got Argentina in the semis, so probably likely [be] in the finals and then anything can happen. It will be gutting watching it.

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“I thought we had them a couple of times [in the final phases]. To concede the turnover when we were so close to the line was gutting. They scramble so hard for each other.

“To go through that many phases shows what this group is made of, but it’s gutting we couldn’t finish it off. We left it all out there.”

Sexton, it seems is withholding his judgement on just how good this New Zealand vintage is, even if the respect is clearly there for the men in black.

In turn New Zealand captain Sam Cane had some words for Sexton, who he clearly holds in high regard.

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“He has been massively successful for Ireland. It is hard to say a lot about other players because there have been many players we have had to say goodbye to.

“We know how much it hurts but when we reflect on his career, we see how great he has been for Ireland. He is great at decision making and he plays an outstanding game and the fact that he has been playing at this level proves it. Congratulations on his outstanding career.”

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cassandra 430 days ago

The Irish team played well. It was a tough physical game. Both teams gave thèir all. And i enjoyed watching it.
lets not forget the Irish are a great side who have taken themslves to the top of European rugby. Johnny Sexton is a great player who was able to command from his position. He could see and direct his team. His strengrh is in his discipline of his team. That is where his value truly lies. In many ways like a Grant Fox or Dan Carter. It is ungracious to say he shouldnt be in the team as you are not viewing the whole picture. It doesnt matter if he was born and raised in nz cos he may not have been picked. Look at the nzers in the irish team they werent picked for the ABs either. Never got a look in and they were noticed by Ireland scouts and offered opportunities not available to them in nz. They chose to play for Ireland.
In fairness they are the only side to beat sth africa…. The ABs didnt…. And we are likely to face them in the finals… altho a micheal cheka coached Argie side….. oooof…. The Pumas are on fire.
Is Sexton good enough to play … Yes he is.
Is he pissed off cos they lost…. who wouldnt be. The ABs have been when we lost.
and why is it ok right after the loss to ask him stupid fn questions like how do u feel…
Sexton is a class player that is underrated. Give him credit for leading a top european side and living the dream of the workd cup. We all know dreams end when we wake. And the Irúish got a rude awakening…..

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Beth 432 days ago

Well after reading the comments I must say , I’m rather surprised by some. Let’s just put the whole thing in perspective! It’s a sports game. And as a Kiwi obviously extremely proud of our boys in Black, I dare not say, BUT they will always be the best team in the world, win or lose they have something that no other team has, South Africa the closest. It’s in our blood, we were all brought up watching the All Blacks, the loses can be felt Nation wide. We had our election the night before our game against Ireland, the next day our new Priminister turned up In an All Black jersey. It’s just in our blood.

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Andy 433 days ago

I’m not convinced that if Sexton was a kiwi, he would ever have been picked for the ABs first XV. Maybe a backup but he doesnt have the raw skills most NZ fly half’s have had. I could see him on the bench, but I wouldn't have even picked him over Andrew Mehrtens, maybe Colin Slade, not Carlos Spencer or Dan Carter, not Mounga, not Barrett. The ABs have been magnanimous in celebrating his career. He hasn’t. Shows the difference in class.

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Shudraka 433 days ago

France just joined the “New World Order” 🤣

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liam 433 days ago

Hey Graham how many world cup
Semis has Ireland played in??? And if not how many quarterfinals have they lost 🤣

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Richard 433 days ago

The top ranked team in the world should have done a lot more during the quarter of the game the other lot were down to 14 men. Not good enough and very poor up front and in the lineout. NZ obviously gave some of the snide little brat's lip back to him. Referees will be glad he’s gone - feckin gobsh1te.
On another note, the lack of respect shown during the minutes silence was a disgrace to all concerned.

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liam 433 days ago

Na na naaa na
Na na naaa na
Hey hey hey
Goodbye 🤣

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Bob Marler 433 days ago

I’d like to know how Johnny rates the food on the plane home.

Can’t even be gracious in defeat and say a good thing about the team that beat them soundly. Chip on the shoulder.

He may have had a great career. But he’s no role model for sportsmanship.

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Graham 433 days ago

I think a lot of the nz rugby community are upset that the world no longer gets on one knee bows head and shows reverence everyone the all blacks are mentioned,
Fact is that they are no longer “ the all blacks” just s team who wear black and dance in unison before each game the aura is gone ..no top tier team fears NZ any longer they are eminently beatable as matter of fact a lot of those irish players playing out there last night never lost to NZ before last night,
When a country with only 4 professional teams and a playing pool of dozens professionals can be world number one and go on 17 test unbeaten run and give NZ a humiliation in NZ own back yard well then I'm afraid times have changed, new Zealand won last night by one score by the thicknes off Barrett's finger, but no cup is coming home with the team and 26 or 27 supporters that showed commitment by traveling to support their team,..
Everyone on sexton back to take the attention off the fact that new Zealand are no longer the all blacks just another team ……

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Graham 433 days ago

The fact that sexton has every supporter and journalist in the rugby community on his back is a testament to his great character ability longevity and if half those who judge him have achieved anything near what he has achieved in their own chosen profession I doubt they be so critical, if you want loud mouth distainable captins of recent history look no further that Fitzpatrick or McCaw I'd nearly go as far a cheats

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JW 24 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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