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Jones should face action over O'Keeffe comments - Andy Goode

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Coaches shouldn’t be able to get away with casting aspersions on referees and Eddie Jones should face sanctions for his comments about Ben O’Keeffe.

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Criticising a decision is one thing but suggesting it was “16 against 13” as he did in the aftermath of England’s 33-30 victory over Wales at Twickenham on Saturday is stepping over the line and it shouldn’t be tolerated.

It is possible to comment on incidents and suggest that you disagree with them but you have to do that in the right manner and preferably make it constructive as well so everyone can learn and improve as a result. Eddie’s comments were far from constructive.

Manu Tuilagi. (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

In terms of the specific decision he was talking about, I think he may be one of just a few people on the planet who think Manu Tuilagi shouldn’t have been sent off.

However, he described the decision as “bizarre” and questioned what Tuilagi could have done differently.

“I do not see how you tackle the guy. This bit about where the arms are, what a load of rubbish,” he said.

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It was a cast iron red card as mitigation isn’t taken into account if there isn’t a genuine attempt to make a legal tackle and in this case Tuilagi led with the shoulder to the head and didn’t have his arms anywhere near a position to wrap.

As a head coach he should understand the law regarding that but his comments in the media, which are heard and read by millions, are far more worrying.

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The England coach has a responsibility to help their players operate within the laws and adjust to the current climate which is rightly focused on attempting to avoid contact with the head.

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Perhaps more importantly, though, they also have a responsibility to be sending the right message to fans.

World Rugby are doing their best to reduce the risk of concussion and head injuries in the sport and coaches should be supporting that rather than saying things that fly in the face of it.

Eddie has the biggest voice in international coaching at present, with Steve Hansen, Warren Gatland, Joe Schmidt and Michael Cheika all having gone after the World Cup, and it doesn’t set a good example to other coaches when he makes comments like this.

Being a referee is a tough job and not many of us would want to do it so the last thing they need is to be getting unfair and unnecessary flak from the most high-profile coach in the game.

Ben O'Keeffe talks
Referee Ben O’Keeffe talks with players during the Fiji vs Australia World Cup game in Sapporo (Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

O’Keeffe has spoken in the past about how he has received abuse online and has had to learn how to deal with it. He shouldn’t have to and coaches making comments like Eddie’s aren’t going to help the situation.

To be fair to Jones, he doesn’t normally comment on individual refereeing decisions but he’s gone from one extreme to the other with this comment and I think it sets a bad precedent if the powers that be just turn a blind eye.

The Six Nations or World Rugby could take action but I would also expect the RFU to take a dim view of it and, as chief executive, Bill Sweeney should be having a word with Eddie and reminding him of his responsibilities.

The pair are due to meet up to discuss a potential new contract among other things. I think most people feel that he will be given an extension to take England through to the next World Cup but it’s possible to reward him with a new deal and also remind him how the England coach is expected to conduct themselves.

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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