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Jordie Barrett: 'I think 12 is the most comfortable position for me'

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Hurricanes star Jordie Barrett says he feels most comfortable playing at second-five, the position he will play in against the Chiefs this weekend.

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Barrett has been named to start at No 12 at Sky Stadium in Wellington on Sunday, the first time he has played in the position at Super Rugby level since the Hurricanes beat the Stormers at home in March 2019.

A versatile player who can play all across the backline, Barrett has made a home for himself at fullback at the Hurricanes and All Blacks, becoming New Zealand’s first-choice option in the No 15 jersey last year.

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That hasn’t prevented speculation from swirling about a positional switch, though, with many opining that the 25-year-old is a midfielder in the making.

Having grown up as a second-five, starring there for the New Zealand U20 side and Canterbury in 2016, there is plenty of reason to believe that Barrett could be a success as a midfielder at professional level.

“I think 12 is the most comfortable position for me,” Barrett said on Friday. “This week at training, I haven’t felt clunky, which is a good thing.”

Hurricanes head coach Jason Holland, who labelled Barrett as “the best fullback in the country” two years ago, added that he had been weighing up playing Barrett as a midfielder since his squad came together in pre-season.

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“It’s always been one of the options we’ve had since pre-season. We feel it’s a good time to get Jordie in there,” Holland said.

Barrett’s comments echo those he made late last year on the What A Lad podcast, where he said in a wide-ranging interview with ex-Hurricanes fullback James Marshall that it is only a matter of time before he makes a permanent shift to second-five.

“I’d be lying if I said I hadn’t spent a few hours in this quarantine hotel thinking about my transition into 12 – something I might do at some stage, whether it’s this year or next year or further down the track,” Barrett said last December.

“I was a 12 growing up, [it was where I played] most of my footy. I feel like my skillset suits that.

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“Who knows? I guess I’ve got the next month-and-a-half to figure out which avenue I’ll go down, but, look, I’m happy with the way I’m going at 15, but got a serious eye to playing 12 at some stage so probably not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when.”

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The 36-test international’s eagerness to play as a No 12 is stark in contrast to what he said during last year’s Super Rugby Aotearoa, though, when he made it clear he wanted to continue to play fullback.

After scoring a hat-trick and all of his side’s points in a 30-19 win by the Hurricanes over the Highlanders in Dunedin last March, Barrett said he wasn’t “keeping any secrets” about his desire to play at fullback.

“I’m not keeping any secrets about where I want to play,” he said following his man-of-the-match performance at Forsyth Barr Stadium.

“Everyone knows I want to play 15 and I’m enjoying playing 15 for the Hurricanes, and hopefully we can just keep building on this performance. It’s just the start for us.”

Nevertheless, Barrett’s selection in the Hurricanes’ midfield will be of significant interest for All Blacks boss Ian Foster, who is yet to nail down a regular, first-choice midfield combination since taking charge of New Zealand in 2020.

Under his tutelage, Rieko Ioane, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue, David Havili, Quinn Tupaea, Braydon Ennor, Peter Umaga-Jensen and Ngani Laumape have all been used in the midfield, but few, if any, have cemented a starting role there.

After impressing at fullback last year, and being trialled on the wing the year before that, Barrett is yet to play in the midfield under Foster’s stewardship, despite having played both second-five and centre for the Hurricanes.

One of Foster’s predecessors, highly-respected former All Blacks coach Wayne Smith, believes there are plenty of benefits Barrett can offer as a second-five, as he told Stuff in an interview earlier this year.

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“One out-of-the-box [solution] I reckon they could look at long-term is Jordie Barrett as a 12. Particularly if they lower the tackle height which I think they will. It’s going to bring in the offload,” Smith said in February.

“When New Zealand won the World U20 Championship with Jordie, that’s where he played. Second-five. He starred with Canterbury and that’s where he played, second-five.

“I’d really like to see him given a go there. He’s nice and tall, he can get the offload away. He’s strong.

“He’s one who could change the game a wee bit. His cross-field kicks are good, and the other thing is that, at second-five, often the decision is made for you when you get the ball. In some ways, it’s an easier position to play [than fullback].”

Coming up against a midfield pairing of Tupaea and Lienert-Brown this weekend, Barrett said that he will have to be on point if he is to help the Hurricanes clinch their third win of the year in what will also be their first bout with the Chiefs this season.

“I’ll need a bit of an edge going into the weekend playing against some quality midfielders in Quinn Tupaea and Anton Lienert-Brown, but I’ve felt good,” Barrett said.

“It’s exciting. I’m able to get my hands on the ball a lot and contribute. I’ve been asked to do something for the team, so it’s something I’ve just jumped into.”

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Andrew 995 days ago

He would certainly add some missing size there. TheABs are getting bossed round big time in the mid field. Bastareud the french guy is 120kg plus!

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JW 4 hours ago
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I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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