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Kirwan: Wallabies could benefit from Bledisloe Cup thrashing

Former All Black Sir John Kirwan. Photo / Getty Images

John Kirwan believes a heavy defeat at the hands of New Zealand in the opening game of the Rugby Championship could ultimately prove beneficial to Australia.

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A distinguished former player and coach for the All Blacks, Kirwan feels significant changes are required in Australian rugby following a tumultuous period that has seen mixed results for the Wallabies and the controversial decision to axe the Western Force from Super Rugby.

Michael Cheika’s side will start Saturday’s first Bledisloe Cup match in Sydney as underdogs against the world champions, but Kirwan feels a thumping away win could help Australia in the long term.

“In a way I want them to get pumped, because I think Australian rugby needs to hit rock bottom,” Kirwan told the Radio Sport Breakfast in New Zealand.

“They need a complete change at board level, at management level. I’m not saying Cheika – I think he should stay in the role.

“They need to recreate Australian rugby and give it a five- to 10-year plan, to get back to where they should be. If they win this week or if they play well, it just might paint over a few of the cracks.

“They are good enough individually to have a good crack, but I think if the All Blacks play well they’ll be in trouble.”

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New Zealand’s team was announced on Thursday, with Damian McKenzie selected at full-back and Ben Smith – who is set to take a sabbatical after the second Bledisloe Cup fixture in Dunedin – picked on the right wing.

Kirwan added: “Bringing Damian McKenzie in with the help of what we would say is one of the world’s best full-backs, he’s going to help him on the wing. For me it’s just another really good strategic decision.”

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Tom 7 hours ago
Will Bristol's daredevil 'Bears-ball' deliver the trophy they crave?

Also a Bristol fan and echo your sentiments.


I love watching Bristol but their approach will only get them so far I think. Exeter played like this when they first got promoted to the prem and had intermittent success, it wasn't until they wised up and played a more balanced game that they became a consistently top side.


I really want Bristol to continue playing this brand of rugby and I don't mind them running it from under their posts but I don't think they need to do it every single time. They need to be just a little bit more selective about when and where on the pitch they play. Every game they put themselves under so much needless pressure by turning the ball over under their posts trying to do kamikaze moves when it's not required. By all means run it from your goal line if there is a chance for a counter attack, we all want to see Bristol running in 100m tries from under their posts but I think until they learn when to do it and when to be pragmatic, they are unlikely to win the premiership.


Defense has been a real positive from Bristol, they've shown a lot of improvement there... And I will say that I think this kamikaze strategy they employ is a very good one for a struggling side and could be employed by Newcastle. It's seems to have turned around Gloucester's fortunes. The big advantage is even if you don't have the biggest and best players, what you have is cohesion. This is why Scotland keep battering England. England have better individuals but they look muddled as a team, trying to play a mixed strategy under coaches who lack charisma, the team has no identity. Scotland come out and give it full throttle from 1-15 even if they struggle against the top sides, sides like England and Wales who lack that identity drown under the relentless will and synergy of the Scots. If Newcastle did the same they could really surprise some people, I know the weather is bad up there but it hasn't bothered the Scots. Bristol can learn from Scotland too, Pat is on to something when he says the following but Scotland don't play test matches like headless chickens. They still play with the same level of clarity and ambition Bristol do but they are much better at picking their moments. They needed to go back to this mad game to get their cohesion back after a couple of seasons struggling but I hope they get a bit wiser from matches like Leinster and La Rochelle.


“If there’s clarity on what you’re trying to do as a team you can win anything.”

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