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Kiwi broadcaster wonā€™t write England off before World Cup

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England fell to another disastrous defeat under coach Steve Borthwick at Twickenham on Saturday afternoon, but a New Zealand broadcaster isnā€™t ready to ā€œwrite them offā€ before the World Cup.

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Following the departure of former coach Eddie Jones, England started their new dawn under Steve Borthwick with a disastrous run of five losses from six starts.

While the English were able to turn their fortunes around with a hard-fought 19-17 win over Wales earlier this month, their last two Test matches havenā€™t gone to plan.

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England were beaten, badly, by World No. 1 Ireland at the Aviva Stadium in Dublin earlier this month. But, as we now know, the worst was yet to come.

Returning home to face Fiji in their final warm-up Test before the Rugby World Cup, England raced out to an early lead after a try to wing Jonny May inside the opening 10 minutes.

But the Flying Fijians came alive after the break, and scored three tries to Englandā€™s two during the second term. Fiji ended up beating England for the first time 30-22 on Saturday.

Many England fans are both concerned and low onconfidence ahead of the Rugby World Cup. The results just arenā€™t there, and havenā€™t been for quite some time.

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But Kiwi scribe and broadcaster James McOnie argued that England has ā€œa lot of world-class playersā€ within their ranks.

ā€œYou write them off at our peril really,ā€ McOnie said on Weekend Sport With Jason Pine.

ā€œTheyā€™ve still got a lot of world-class players: Courtney Lawes, Maro Itoje, (Owen) Farrell comes back into the mix, (Manu) Tuilagi is incredible.

ā€œI actually think Marcus Smith, the reserve, reserve first-five, is the player they should build the team around but (Steve) Borthwick risk-averse and heā€™s gone full conservative.

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ā€œA lot of English fans are saying this is the house that Eddie Jones built, he created this mess, and look where we are.ā€

Coach Borthwick remains ā€œconfidentā€ that England have the personnel they need to succeed, but supporters arenā€™t as optimistic.

Former England playmaker Andy Goode tweeted ā€˜#Borthwickoutā€™ after the eight-point defeat, and that post had more than 1,300 likes, almost 170 reposts and 253 comments at the time of writing.

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Michael 580 days ago

The boks does in 2007 you can win a world cup after only playing 1 good game

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Sumkunn Tsadmiova 582 days ago

I'm only a stupid Bulgarian. We chop down trees and eat cabbages. But my friend Telum Tofakov and me would humbly like to predict one thing that is perhaps unfashionable, indeed risible, in the current climate. England will win the World Cup.

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Tris 582 days ago

As a pundit you dont want to be forced to eat your words. But thats just sitting on the fence.

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KiwiSteve 582 days ago

They have been awful since last November. I think we can write them off given Borthwick has had 8 months to create something. To quote Spinal Tab merely a two word review "shit sandwich šŸ„Ŗ"

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Yeah, thatā€™s what I took you as meaning. I also took that to mean ā€œa 10ā€ that you can win a would cup with. And no, thatā€™s not a Beaver level player Iā€™m picturing.


I think NZ could have many Beaver level players that could go to a world cup, not in a play style perspective I mean, just as in players that only command a couple of facets in their expertise and experience. Robinson and Millar could both control a game with their boot like Merths. Jacomb, Harkin, and Godfrey can present the ball at the line like Cruden. Kemara might be a bit more of a vision player like Richie and learning from /playing with Havili. With even a couple of u21/u20 youngsters that could charge infront of those names in SR.


But Iā€™m saying despite that diversity actually showing great 10 development in the country, I canā€™t see those players developing enough skill sets in time to outshine Peroā€™s dependability and composure (only going on his AB performances here though) or the experience and knowledge that Barrett would bring to a group (or as you say someone with the experience of Richie). So the WC 10ā€™s will be those three players.


Fully agree re consistency, this is why I see Dmac being a good option by the time 2027 comes around. Last year was his first at playing 10 in test matches, and his second year over all (well he had one SR season 6/7 years ago too). If he can just get to grips with how to bailout (pass to the 12 and donā€™t carry it/take it into contact yourself!) safely when plays disrupted and develop a bit more trickery/deception with his option taking, heā€™ll surpass Moā€™unga in general, and even some of Carters play. Iā€™m not sure Barrett was ever the type to mold his style whether he had stayed at full back, 10 or even on the wing. He just players like he did in the back yard and thatā€™s it, it either (you either make it..) works or it doesnā€™t. It was completely apparent that he was never going to be as great a 10 as he was random backline player (he canā€™t pass far or kick accurately), so I think itā€™s perfectly fine to have used him wherever the team needs him. Iā€™d agree though, that sort of flexibility indeed a) causes flexibility to be needed in team mates as well, and b) sets a bad example. Letā€™s hope it doesnā€™t get repeated on Pero and Dmac!

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