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Kiwis Abroad - Best New Zealand Squad Playing in Europe

Charles Piutau to represent Tonga at the RWC

Given the overflow of talent in New Zealand, coupled with the money on offer in Europe, many Kiwis head north to ply their trade. What would be your top New Zealand 23 consisting of players currently playing in Europe? Connor Whittick takes a look at some of the options and puts forward a proposed squad:

  1. Ben Franks (London Irish). The veteran prop has been plying his trade in the second division of English rugby this year and has impressed for London Irish after joining from the Hurricanes in 2015.
  2. Corey Flynn (Glasgow Warriors). At the age of 36, Flynn’s playing career must be coming towards an end, but the veteran hooker has impressed in Europe after joining Toulouse in 2014, and will be wearing the Black and White jersey of the Barbarians later this month.
  3. Ben Tameifuna (Racing 92). The giant prop was called up to the Tonga squad for the 2016 Autumn Internationals after failing to break into the All Blacks set up whilst playing for the Chiefs.
  4. Mark Reddish (Harlequins). Started for the Highlanders in the memorable 2015 Final of Super Rugby, and has since moved to England to ply his trade for the Harlequins.
  5. Jeremy Thrush (Gloucester). The former All Black lock has become a fan’s favourite at Kingsholm since signing in 2015 after a 7 year stint with the Hurricanes.
  6. Mike Fitzgerald (Leicester Tigers) The 30 year old has become an important part of the Leicester pack since his move from the Chiefs in 2015, and has shown his versatility by playing in both the second and back row.
  7. Brendan O’Connor (Leicester Tigers). Tipped by some to represent England, O’Connor is a mobile loose forward and has performed very well for the Tigers despite some injury setbacks.
  8. Victor Vito (La Rochelle). A 2 time World Cup winner with New Zealand, Vito has proven his worth with La Rochelle this season with the club flying high at the top of the Top 14Embed from Getty Images
  9. Jamison Gibson-Park (Leinster). The first Pro 12 player on this list, Gibson-Park has played well for Leinster this year, and many tip him for a place in the Ireland setup in the future, becoming eligible for selection in 2019.
  10. Dan Carter (Racing 92). Who else? Carter has consistently shone for Racing 92 in the Top 14, scoring 15 points and winning the Man of the Match Award in the 2016 final of the competition.
  11. Johnny McNicholl (Scarlets). The former Crusader and Canterbury speedster has made it clear that he has international ambitions with Wales in the future, and with his Scarlets side exceeding expectations in the Pro 12 this year many expect McNicholl to find a place in the Welsh backline in the future.
  12. Jimmy Gopperth (Wasps). Recently nominated for Aviva Premiership player of the year, the versatile back has been nothing short of phenomenal for the Wasps since his move from Leinster.
  13. Bundee Aki (Connacht). A key member of the Connacht side that won the Pro 12 in 2016, the former Chief shall be representing the Barbarians later this month, and is tipped by some to receive international honours with Ireland in the future.
  14. Isaia Toeava (Clermont Auvergne), a versatile back and former All Black, Toeava signed for Clermont in 2016 and hasn’t looked back, with his club side seeking to win the European Championship next week.
  15. Charles Piutau (Ulster). Although he has shown a slight dip in form over the last few months, Piutau has been nothing short of a revelation for Wasps and Ulster since moving to Europe in 2015. Many tip the flying back to return to New Zealand in time for the 2019 World Cup.
  16. Rhys Marshall (Munster). The former New Zealand u20 hooker has impressed in the Pro 12 this season since signing from Chiefs last Summer.
  17. Aled de Malmanche (Stade Francais). The former Chief and All Black can play in any 3 of the front row positions, and is currently in his sixth year at Stade Francais.
  18. John Afoa (Gloucester). One of the highest paid players in world rugby, Afoa will turn 34 this year, and has had a career many fellow players would envy after winning 35 All Black caps and amassing over 100 Super Rugby games for the Blues.
  19. Hayden Triggs (Leinster). Triggs has formed a reliable second row partnership with Devin Toner for Leinster in Ireland, with the reliable lock celebrating his 35th birthday earlier this year.
  20. Nick Williams (Cardiff Blues). The big ball carrying back row forward has played for four different European clubs since joining Munster in 2008.
  21. Jono Kitto (Leicester Tigers). The 3rd Tiger on this list, Kitto has impressed for Leicester since joining them in 2015, contesting with Ben Youngs and Sam Harrison for the scrum half position at the club.
  22. Ma’a Nonu (Toulon). An All Black veteran and former 2 time World Cup winner, Nonu is part of a bulky Toulon back line that has performed well in the Top 14 this season.Embed from Getty Images
  23. Willis Halaholo (Cardiff Blues). A 2016 Super Rugby winner with the Hurricanes, many were surprised after Halaholo’s move to Wales was confirmed, with some tipping the big centre to achieve full All Black honours prior to his move.

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JW 5 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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