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Kleyn bombshell Rassie's first World Cup shot at Ireland

A dejected Ireland bench looks on during the Quilter International match between England and Ireland at Twickenham Stadium on August 24, 2019 in London, England. (Photo by Ashley Western/MB Media/Getty Images)

If everything goes as planned, Ireland lock Jean Kleyn could switch international allegiance after he was selected to join the Springboks’ Rugby Championship training squad.

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Kleyn was born in South Africa and qualified to play for Ireland through residency grounds in September 2019.

He played five Tests for Ireland which included the 2019 World Cup.

Kleyn has not played for Ireland since the 2020 Six Nations and his latest omission from the squad named by head coach Andy Farrell seems to have left the door open for the Springboks to lure him back to the Republic.

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The 29-year-old’s admission to the Bok team is depending on the outcome of an application filed by the South African Rugby Union (SARU) regarding the former Stormers lock’s eligibility in terms of Regulation 8 and based on birthright.

The decision is expected to be received soon.

Kleyn’s inclusion in the Boks training squad was certainly a big shock, but simultaneously a stroke of genius by the Springbok management.

The Munster lock has delivered some really impressive performances this season and he was named Munster’s player of the season. He was integral to Munster’s United Rugby Championship title success – beating his former side the Stormers in the Final last month.

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Gavin Coombes and Jean Kleyn of Munster after the United Rugby Championship Quarter-Final match between Ulster and Munster at Kingspan Stadium in Belfast. (Photo By Ramsey Cardy/Sportsfile via Getty Images)
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Despite his incredible form, the Johannesburg-born forward was still snubbed by the Irish coach Andy Farrell, which left many Irish supporters far from happy in the north.

But Ireland’s loss might be South Africa’s gain.

It is clear that the Springbok management holds Kleyn in high regard. In 2016, Kleyn was the first high-profile signing made by former Munster head coach Rassie Erasmus, who is currently South Africa’s Director of Rugby.

Kleyn faced fierce competition, with Lodewyk de Jager, Eben Etzebeth, Marvin Orie and Rudolf Snyman, along with utility forwards Pieter-Steph du Toit and Franco Mostert all very accomplished in the position.

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However one thing is sure, Kleyn’s inclusion in the Boks training squad has fired the first shot and added extra fuel to the fire of what will be a highly contested Pool B in the World Cup, where the defending champions South Africa have been drawn in the same pool as Ireland, along with Scotland, Tonga and Romania.

Popular Munster opinion setter Tim O’Connor summed up the frustration of many Munster were feeling when news of the move broke on Saturday.

“So, that’s Ben Healy and Jean Kleyn both frozen out, for no remotely explicable or justifiable reason in Kleyn’s case, and Ireland’s RWC pool opponents diving in to benefit,” wrote O’Connor on Twitter. “That bet on cohesion better pay off, put it that way… The country with the strongest stock of locks on earth enthusiastically availing of the stand-out TH lock in Irish rugby, but, sure, why would we need a big unit who relentlessly cleans the contact area? It’s not like players like that win trophi… Oh.”

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JD Kiwi 583 days ago

Picking a player that your opponent doesn't want isn't much of a first shot. More like a little wet ball of paper blown out of an empty Bic Flick.

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Rob 583 days ago

“So, that’s Ben Healy and Jean Kleyn both frozen out, for no remotely explicable or justifiable reason in Kleyn’s case“

It’s almost like there are second rows playing better on teams that didn’t win, by this logic Rhys Ruddock should be on 50 caps but he’s not because there were better back rowers at the time.

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finn 583 days ago

It used to be the case that southern hemisphere players who weren't needed by their national sides switched allegiance to the north.

Now times have changed, and attempts my Munster and SA fans to spin this as a win for the Boks are just showing how out of touch they are.

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kevin 583 days ago

Kleyn was in great form but the grand slam winning coaching team didn’t fancy him so best of luck to him. It’s called selection and the picking of a squad rarely pleases everyone. Munster fans can give out all they’d want but that’s how things go. Ben Healy was hardly frozen out. He was third choice in Munster when he decided to go. A fact that I’d wager played a big part in his decision. So playing for Ireland was a bit off for him.

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JW 4 hours ago
How law changes are speeding up the game - but the scrum lags behind

so what's the point?

A deep question!


First, the point would be you wouldn't have a share of those penalities if you didn't choose good scrummers right.


So having incentive to scrummaging well gives more space in the field through having less mobile players.


This balance is what we always strive to come back to being the focus of any law change right.


So to bring that back to some of the points in this article, if changing the current 'offense' structure of scrums, to say not penalizing a team that's doing their utmost to hold up the scrum (allowing play to continue even if they did finally succumb to collapsing or w/e for example), how are we going to stop that from creating a situation were a coach can prioritize the open play abilities of their tight five, sacrificing pure scrummaging, because they won't be overly punished by having a weak scrum?


But to get back on topic, yes, that balance is too skewed, the prevalence has been too much/frequent.


At the highest level, with the best referees and most capable props, it can play out appealingly well. As you go down the levels, the coaching of tactics seems to remain high, but the ability of the players to adapt and hold their scrum up against that guy boring, or the skill of the ref in determining what the cause was and which of those two to penalize, quickly degrades the quality of the contest and spectacle imo (thank good european rugby left that phase behind!)


Personally I have some very drastic changes in mind for the game that easily remedy this prpblem (as they do for all circumstances), but the scope of them is too great to bring into this context (some I have brought in were applicable), and without them I can only resolve to come up with lots of 'finicky' like those here. It is easy to understand why there is reluctance in their uptake.


I also think it is very folly of WR to try and create this 'perfect' picture of simple laws that can be used to cover all aspects of the game, like 'a game to be played on your feet' etc, and not accept it needs lots of little unique laws like these. I'd be really happy to create some arbitrary advantage for the scrum victors (similar angle to yours), like if you can make your scrum go forward, that resets the offside line from being the ball to the back foot etc, so as to create a way where your scrum wins a foot be "5 meters back" from the scrum becomes 7, or not being able to advance forward past the offisde line (attack gets a free run at you somehow, or devide the field into segments and require certain numbers to remain in the other sgements (like the 30m circle/fielders behind square requirements in cricket). If you're defending and you go forward then not just is your 9 still allowed to harras the opposition but the backline can move up from the 5m line to the scrum line or something.


Make it a real mini game, take your solutions and making them all circumstantial. Having differences between quick ball or ball held in longer, being able to go forward, or being pushed backwards, even to where the scrum stops and the ref puts his arm out in your favour. Think of like a quick tap scenario, but where theres no tap. If the defending team collapses the scrum in honest attempt (even allow the attacking side to collapse it after gong forward) the ball can be picked up (by say the eight) who can run forward without being allowed to be tackled until he's past the back of the scrum for example. It's like a little mini picture of where the defence is scrambling back onside after a quick tap was taken.


The purpose/intent (of any such gimmick) is that it's going to be so much harder to stop his momentum, and subsequent tempo, that it's a really good advantage for having such a powerful scrum. No change of play to a lineout or blowing of the whistle needed.

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