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'Laughable': Moses Mbye shrugs off talk of unrest at Dragons

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St George Illawarra utility Moses Mbye has laughed off suggestions of player unrest at the Dragons and says uncertainty about Anthony Griffin’s coaching future is only natural given the side’s poor recent form.

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The Dragons entered the State of Origin period a genuine chance of playing finals football but finished it with decisive losses to fellow finals aspirants Brisbane and the Sydney Roosters.

The club’s board met on Tuesday and Griffin’s future was on the agenda, but Mbye said extra scrutiny was to be expected in the lead-up to the finals.

“It’s that time of the year where if you’re not performing very well, you’re going to be under the pump,” he said.

“The last couple of weeks we haven’t been playing good footy.

“The pressure comes back on us as a playing group and as a club. Obviously, there are headlines that you don’t really want to be reading. But that’s just the reality of what it is.”

Griffin is known as something of a hard taskmaster but Mbye dismissed reports the playing group was unhappy with his coaching style.

“It’s a bit laughable to be honest,” he said.

Mbye said the only way to ease pressure on the coach would be to improve on-field, starting with Friday’s match against Manly.

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If the Dragons lose they will be two wins and points differential out of the top eight with only six games in hand to close the gap.

“It doesn’t really matter what I say,” he said.

“I’m not going to stand here and throw fuel on the fire or tell everyone why (Griffin) is so good or why he’s bad.

“We’re going to be judged on how we turn up on Friday night.”

Mbye was at a loss to explain the Dragons’ recent form.

“I’m not quite sure what’s been missing,” he said.

“It’s something that we’ve been looking at during the week.

“There are a lot of variables in rugby league: teams change, fatigue, injuries.

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“You just need to prepare as best you can and for us that starts now.”

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JW 3 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I had a look at the wiki article again, it's all terribly old data (not that I'd see reason for much change in the case of SA).

Number Of Clubs:

1526

Registered+Unregistered Players:

651146

Number of Referees:

3460

Pre-teen Male Players:

320842

Pre-teen Female Player:

4522

Teen Male Player:

199213

Teen Female Player:

4906

Senior Male Player:

113174

Senior Female Player:

8489

Total Male Player:

633229

Total Female Player:

17917


So looking for something new as were more concerned with adults specifically, so I had a look at their EOY Financial Review.

The total number of clubs remains consistent, with a marginal increase of 1% from 1,161 to 1,167. 8.1.

A comparative analysis of verified data for 2022 and 2023 highlights a marginal decline of 1% in the number of female players, declining from 6,801 to 6,723. Additionally, the total number of players demonstrates an 8% decrease, dropping from 96,172 to 88,828.

So 80k+ adult males (down from 113k), but I'm not really sure when youth are involved with SAn clubs, or if that data is for some reason not being referenced/included. 300k male students however (200k in old wiki data).


https://resources.world.rugby/worldrugby/document/2020/07/28/212ed9cf-cd61-4fa3-b9d4-9f0d5fb61116/P56-57-Participation-Map_v3.pdf has France at 250k registered but https://presse-europe1-fr.translate.goog/exclu-europe-1-le-top-10-des-sports-les-plus-pratiques-en-france-en-2022/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp has them back up at 300k registered.


The French number likely Students + Club, but everyone collects data different I reckon. In that WR pdf for instance a lot of the major nations have a heavily registered setup, were as a nation like England can penetrate into a lot more schools to run camps and include them in the reach of rugby. For instance the SARU release says only 29% of schools are reached by proper rugby programs, where as the 2million English number would be through a much much higer penetration I'd imagine. Which is thanks to schools having the ability to involve themselves in programs more than anything.


In any case, I don't think you need to be concerned with the numbers, whether they are 300 or 88k, there is obviously a big enough following for their pro scenes already to have enough quality players for a 10/12 team competition. They appear ibgger than France but I don't really by the lower English numbers going around.

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