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Lawes, Itoje outline where it agonisingly went wrong for England

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Neither Courtney Lawes nor Maro Itoje were shy in Saturday night’s post-game mixed zone when it came to identifying what they felt was the reason for England not dethroning South Africa, the Rugby World Cup title holders.

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The 2019 champions chased down a 15-6 deficit in the final minutes to clinch a 15-16 comeback win and book their place in next Saturday’s final against the All Blacks.

Both Lawes and Itoje were standout England performers, rising to the occasion and getting their team to within a whisker of reaching a decider no one gave them a chance of making before the tournament started.

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England led 12-6 at the interval, but Lawes said: “We gave away too many penalties in the second half. Fine margins, it is one of those things. We gave it everything we had and we can be quite proud of that.”

According to Itoje, the half-time message was: “Just to execute the game plan, to try to raise the intensity. We knew it was going to go up, so it was about executing our game plan and being disciplined.

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“There were things we could have been more alive to,” he added, reflecting on the decisive concession of 10 late points. “They scored from that lineout move, we should have been more alive to that, and a couple of penalties up the field where we should have been a bit sharper.

“But they are a good team. Every team you play against is going to have a moment. We are just gutted… The whole plan was to put them under pressure. We accomplished that in the first half, we wanted to challenge them and we did that. Unfortunately, it wasn’t enough.”

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Back to Lawes. “Their set-piece came through in the end, that is something they can very much rely on. Their bench definitely brought an impact onto the pitch. we knew that could be the case and we unfortunately didn’t deal with it well enough.

“It’s disappointing because we should have won it. We were the better team on the day but congrats to them. They found a way to win and that is what you have to do sometimes.”

Itoje added: “Very sad. A lot of effort, a lot of passion, a lot of time and dedication has gone into this World Cup from our side, but I’m proud of the effort, how hard we fought out there. We were a couple of minutes away from executing the game plan pretty well. It was sad but we have to dust ourselves off and move on.”

The 22-year-old George Martin packed down for just his fourth Test start. Lawes was impressed by how the rookie played.

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“I just spoke to him and said I’m very much looking forward to watching his career. Incredible game, it just shows his maturity as a player. He’s 22, the same age as me when I had my first World Cup. He is going to be here for a long time.”

England, though, aren’t yet finished at France 2023 as they have next Friday’s bronze medal match versus Argentina to contest.

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Lawes insisted his team will get back up for that game against a team they beat 27-10 in Marseille at the start of the tournament last month.

“I don’t think it will be too difficult (to pick the boys up). It’s really important for us to finish on a high. Obviously, we don’t know the team yet but a lot of boys that are on this tour won’t represent their country again, so it’s very important we finish where we started.”

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Gerald 425 days ago

England have played the 5 WC knockout games vs the Boks. That is 400 minutes. And have yet to score a try. England focus so much on disruption and stopping the Boks to play and their tactics work very well in stopping the Boks. But their lack of ambition to score a try means they cannot get enough points on the board, and with the Boks defense, even if they play poorly, means they stay in the fight. And then they only need 15 mins to put enough attack phases together to beat England. Maybe the Poms should look at themselves and up their attack and ambition and they might then win.

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Snash 426 days ago

this brings perspective to outsiders ranting about the ref - over 80 mins Eng scored 15, Boks 16. There is no question Boks gained ascendency in last 1/4 (often the 3rd quarter but that’s credit to Eng) Boks found a way, principally thro Ox, RG and Handre. Re the final penalty - clear knee to ground in front of Ben, that changes height and provides advantage.

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frandinand 426 days ago

Another key moment mistake which I believe contributed to England’s defeat was Farrell back chatting the referee after a penalty was awarded. O’Keefe moved the penalty 10 metres up field as a consequence enabling it to be in range for the South African goal kicker. Without Farrell’s back chat it is unlikely that a goal kick would have been successful.
I’m not surprised the English media have failed to highlight this. In England Farrell is regarded as a God who can do no wrong. I’m delighted that in 2027 he will be 36 and probably to old to be selected and therefore will probably never win a RWC Winner’s Medal.

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FM 426 days ago

A few years ago, before you could change more than half the side with bench players, we saw a different type of rugby. In days gone by we’d see real champions of the game come to the fore, players who were able to dig deep for the the last fifteen or ten minutes of the game, hold their side together - real warrior stuff. Now days with a swap of more than half a team, the whole dynamic has changed, and in my opinion not for the better.

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FM 426 days ago

Plain and simple where it all went wrong. England have got to become hungry for the try line! 3’ - Farrell kicks the first penalty
10’ - Farrell adds a second
24’ - Farrell extends England’s lead to six points
39’ - Farrell puts England further ahead before half time with another penalty
53’ - Farrell kicks a drop goal, England’s final points of the semi-final Dismal!

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Poe 426 days ago

Lack of killer instinct for me. And a lack of variation in the kicking game, and not much thought of trying to run the forwards or off the forwards. There is actually more than one way to play rugby in the rain..

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Ferell 426 days ago

That last kick of Steward I believe the last few minutes if you must kick make sure you kick towards the opponents goal line let them start from there

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Chris 426 days ago

If Dan Cole and Joe Marler had been able to continue for the whole of the second half ….. ?

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JW 5 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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