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Lawes picks 'extremely big' 118kg star as his ideal England No6 heir

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One of the toughest jobs Steve Borthwick has had after the World Cup has been deciding who will replace Courtney Lawes as England’s long-term blindside flanker.

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It is not the lack of options that proves problematic for the head coach, rather the abundance of options, with each bringing different styles and qualities to the table. Added to the fact that their job is to replace one of the greatest players to ever pull on an England jersey, Borthwick has an unenviable task on his hands making sure he has picked the ideal player.

But there is no one better to suggest who should replace Lawes at blindside flanker after his international retirement last year than the 105-cap England international himself. Fortunately for Borthwick, that is exactly what the Northampton Saints star did recently on The Rugby Pod, where he tipped Leicester Tigers star George Martin to be his long-term successor.

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The 22-year-old Martin has primarily been used as a lock by Borthwick and Eddie Jones across his nine England caps, but is equally adept at slotting into the No6 jersey- just as Lawes was for England. His extreme physicality, workrate and lineout expertise were the three qualities Lawes pinpointed in Martin’s game- not at all dissimilar to the Saints star.

Martin has missed the opening two rounds of the Guinness Six Nations with a knee injury, but is back in the squad that will prepare to face Scotland in round three. His last outing in white came in the World Cup semi-final loss to South Africa, where he put in a monstrously physical performance in the second row. It was a display where Martin outlined his credentials to be a starter for England for many years to come, regardless of what position.

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Exeter Chiefs’ Ethan Roots has been granted the No6 jersey for the opening two rounds of the Championship, and has done a very good job in staking a claim to keep hold of it. But that competition will only increase now with Martin’s return, Lawes believes.

“We’ve got a lot to work out in the back row I think in our balance,” the five-cap British & Irish Lion said.

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“Because Unders [Sam Underhill] and Benny Earl are relatively similar players. But that six spot is going to be an important position, what kind of player they go with. Because we’ve got a lot of really well-rounded back row players in England.

“Like Tom Curry, who can do anything, Ben Curry, who can do anything, Ben Earl, who can do anything, and the same for Unders. We’ve also got Tom Pearson who’s not had a look in but he’s been absolutely class for us. Plus [Ethan] Roots is coming through, Chandler [Cunningham-South], so we’ve got an awful lot of back row. It’s now just about finding the right balance for it.

“It’s tough, because you definitely need nowadays a jumping six, or at least a jumping back row, otherwise you’re just leaving yourself so exposed at the lineout.

“So I think George Martin may play six eventually. I think, personally, he might be the next big six- a workhouse, bangs, physical, maybe not quite as athletic as the other back row, but he can do a really good workhouse and lineout job.

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“An extremely big physical bloke.”

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Jon 273 days ago

too big, too slow to be a flanker, Martin looks to be a lock to me…

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Clive 278 days ago

Cunny-South and Fisilau are the next taxis off the backrow rack, far quicker than Martin and both heavy tackling and carrying potential 6/8s. Martin should be replacing Itoje who is too small and his form has been patchy, We need rapid, powerful, good decision making ball handlers in the backrow and tbh across the team.

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thegoldencalfe 278 days ago

And herein lies our problem….brawn over athleticism and decision making. I accept that any modern number 6 will be an additional line out option but let us not forget the importance of a selecting a rugby player with the game understanding to stick or twist at the breakdown, to support the ball carrier on an inside line with the expectation of an off load (re Alex Mann) or one that has the dexterity to offload himself instead of pumping the legs to gain the additional metre in preparation for the inevitable slow England ruck. Roots is combative and aggressive but he is not a footballer in the truest sense of the word. Lets find someone who leaves the opposition in doubt as to what he will do with ball in hand.

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finn 278 days ago

is anyone who watches Leicester Tigers more often than I do able to explain why Martin is so rarely picked at tighthead lock?

from what I’ve seen of him he looks like a Martin Johnson style of player. Not quite as big as Meafou or Skelton, but still generally dominant in the maul and the close range carry, and better than most locks at stabilising the scrum. Despite this, he’s played most of his rugby at 6, and even though he’s been moved into the second row more recently, he’s almost exclusively been put at loosehead. Strikes me as odd!

If I was selecting the team I’d probably use him as an impact player off the bench for the time being, but in the longer term I’d be really excited by the idea of him, Itoje, and Chessum all starting together, probably with Martin at 5 and Itoje at 6.

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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