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Lawes picks 'extremely big' 118kg star as his ideal England No6 heir

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One of the toughest jobs Steve Borthwick has had after the World Cup has been deciding who will replace Courtney Lawes as England’s long-term blindside flanker.

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It is not the lack of options that proves problematic for the head coach, rather the abundance of options, with each bringing different styles and qualities to the table. Added to the fact that their job is to replace one of the greatest players to ever pull on an England jersey, Borthwick has an unenviable task on his hands making sure he has picked the ideal player.

But there is no one better to suggest who should replace Lawes at blindside flanker after his international retirement last year than the 105-cap England international himself. Fortunately for Borthwick, that is exactly what the Northampton Saints star did recently on The Rugby Pod, where he tipped Leicester Tigers star George Martin to be his long-term successor.

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The 22-year-old Martin has primarily been used as a lock by Borthwick and Eddie Jones across his nine England caps, but is equally adept at slotting into the No6 jersey- just as Lawes was for England. His extreme physicality, workrate and lineout expertise were the three qualities Lawes pinpointed in Martin’s game- not at all dissimilar to the Saints star.

Martin has missed the opening two rounds of the Guinness Six Nations with a knee injury, but is back in the squad that will prepare to face Scotland in round three. His last outing in white came in the World Cup semi-final loss to South Africa, where he put in a monstrously physical performance in the second row. It was a display where Martin outlined his credentials to be a starter for England for many years to come, regardless of what position.

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Exeter Chiefs’ Ethan Roots has been granted the No6 jersey for the opening two rounds of the Championship, and has done a very good job in staking a claim to keep hold of it. But that competition will only increase now with Martin’s return, Lawes believes.

“We’ve got a lot to work out in the back row I think in our balance,” the five-cap British & Irish Lion said.

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“Because Unders [Sam Underhill] and Benny Earl are relatively similar players. But that six spot is going to be an important position, what kind of player they go with. Because we’ve got a lot of really well-rounded back row players in England.

“Like Tom Curry, who can do anything, Ben Curry, who can do anything, Ben Earl, who can do anything, and the same for Unders. We’ve also got Tom Pearson who’s not had a look in but he’s been absolutely class for us. Plus [Ethan] Roots is coming through, Chandler [Cunningham-South], so we’ve got an awful lot of back row. It’s now just about finding the right balance for it.

“It’s tough, because you definitely need nowadays a jumping six, or at least a jumping back row, otherwise you’re just leaving yourself so exposed at the lineout.

“So I think George Martin may play six eventually. I think, personally, he might be the next big six- a workhouse, bangs, physical, maybe not quite as athletic as the other back row, but he can do a really good workhouse and lineout job.

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“An extremely big physical bloke.”

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Jon 304 days ago

too big, too slow to be a flanker, Martin looks to be a lock to me…

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Clive 309 days ago

Cunny-South and Fisilau are the next taxis off the backrow rack, far quicker than Martin and both heavy tackling and carrying potential 6/8s. Martin should be replacing Itoje who is too small and his form has been patchy, We need rapid, powerful, good decision making ball handlers in the backrow and tbh across the team.

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thegoldencalfe 309 days ago

And herein lies our problem….brawn over athleticism and decision making. I accept that any modern number 6 will be an additional line out option but let us not forget the importance of a selecting a rugby player with the game understanding to stick or twist at the breakdown, to support the ball carrier on an inside line with the expectation of an off load (re Alex Mann) or one that has the dexterity to offload himself instead of pumping the legs to gain the additional metre in preparation for the inevitable slow England ruck. Roots is combative and aggressive but he is not a footballer in the truest sense of the word. Lets find someone who leaves the opposition in doubt as to what he will do with ball in hand.

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finn 309 days ago

is anyone who watches Leicester Tigers more often than I do able to explain why Martin is so rarely picked at tighthead lock?

from what I’ve seen of him he looks like a Martin Johnson style of player. Not quite as big as Meafou or Skelton, but still generally dominant in the maul and the close range carry, and better than most locks at stabilising the scrum. Despite this, he’s played most of his rugby at 6, and even though he’s been moved into the second row more recently, he’s almost exclusively been put at loosehead. Strikes me as odd!

If I was selecting the team I’d probably use him as an impact player off the bench for the time being, but in the longer term I’d be really excited by the idea of him, Itoje, and Chessum all starting together, probably with Martin at 5 and Itoje at 6.

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JW 1 hour ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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