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Le jour où Pierre Salviac a été "banni'" du stade Aimé-Giral

Pierre Salviac a été la voix du rugby à la télé française pendant de longues années (Photo credit should read GABRIEL BOUYS/AFP via Getty Images).

« L’USAP ? Une maison de retraite pour éclopés ». Voilà comment Pierre Salviac, alors commentateur vedette du rugby à la télévision française, qualifiait le club catalan en 2004, année de finale de championnat de France perdue face au Stade Français (20-38).

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Dans le viseur de l’influent journaliste, le recrutement brillant sur le papier, un peu moins sur le terrain. Il faut dire qu’à l’aube de la saison 2003-2004, Perpignan, récent finaliste de la HCup (défaite 17-22 contre Toulouse), recrute des pointures à l’international. Ce qui, il y a 20 ans, n’était pas aussi courant qu’aujourd’hui.

Le Wallaby Dan Herbert (67 sélections), le All Black Scott Robertson (23 capes), le champion du monde en titre anglais Dan Luger : trois noms ronflants au rendement plus ou moins satisfaisant. Herbert, arrivé blessé, n’a pas joué, “Razor” a fait des passages réguliers à l’infirmerie.

Mais pour le président catalan Marcel Dagrenat, la saillie de Salviac ne passe pas. « Je ne peux pas supporter qu’on dise que l’USAP est une maison de retraite », s’étrangle-t-il encore aujourd’hui.

« Quand on voit d’où venait ce club, où il s’était rendu sans les moyens dont bénéficient les grandes métropoles. Respect pour ce club et ce public. On fait finale de HCup en 2003, finale de Top 16 en 2004 et lui, il dit ça à ce moment-là », confie-t-il à RugbyPass.

Marcel Dagrenat dans son bureau au stade Aimé-Giral, le jour où il a démissionné de la présidence de l'USAP, le 17 octobre 2006 (Photo credit should read RAYMOND ROIG/AFP via Getty Images).

« Il était persona non grata dans tout Perpignan »

Le dirigeant décide alors de prendre des mesures de rétorsion. « Je n’avais pas le droit de l’interdire d’entrer à Aimé-Giral mais personne au club ne lui parlait. Il était ‘persona non grata’ dans tout Perpignan car les supporteurs, qui nous collaient à la peau, ont suivi notre position. »

Le journaliste, décontenancé par la situation, cherche à arrondir les angles. « Il en a eu peur ! Il a demandé au maire une protection », se souvient Dagrenat. « Un repas a été organisé avec Salviac, le maire (Jean-Paul Alduy à ce moment-là, ndlr) et les anciennes gloires de l’USAP pour calmer le jeu. »

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Mais la rancœur présidentielle, elle, est tenace. Marcel Dagrenat poursuit : « On fait finale du championnat de France en 2004, et c’est l’année où Joan Laporta prend la présidence du FC Barcelone. À l’époque j’avais des relations très privilégiées avec Laporta, qui est venu assister à la finale au Stade de France à mes côtés. Bien sûr, Salviac et consorts se sont jetés sur moi pour l’interviewer. J’ai demandé à Laporta de me rendre service et de ne pas lui parler. Seul Canal + a pu l’interviewer. »

Sans lien de cause à effet, Pierre Salviac est écarté des commentaires de match en 2005 par la direction de France Télévisions. Marcel Dagrenat, lui, quitte la direction du club catalan au profit de Paul Goze en 2007.

 

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JW 3 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

In another recent article I tried to argue for a few key concept changes for EPCR which I think could light the game up in the North.


First, I can't remember who pointed out the obvious elephant in the room (a SA'n poster?), it's a terrible time to play rugby in the NH, and especially your pinnacle tournament. It's been terrible watching with seemingly all the games I wanted to watch being in the dark, hardly able to see what was going on. The Aviva was the only stadium I saw that had lights that could handle the miserable rain. If the global appeal is there, they could do a lot better having day games.


They other primary idea I thuoght would benefit EPCR most, was more content. The Prem could do with it and the Top14 could do with something more important than their own league, so they aren't under so much pressure to sell games. The quality over quantity approach.


Trim it down to two 16 team EPCR competitions, and introduce a third for playing amongst the T2 sides, or the bottom clubs in each league should simply be working on being better during the EPCR.


Champions Cup is made up of league best 15 teams, + 1, the Challenge Cup winner. Without a reason not to, I'd distribute it evenly based on each leauge, dividing into thirds and rounded up, 6 URC 5 Top14 4 English. Each winner (all four) is #1 rank and I'd have a seeding round or two for the other 12 to determine their own brackets for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. I'd then hold a 6 game pool, home and away, with consecutive of each for those games that involve SA'n teams. Preferrably I'd have a regional thing were all SA'n teams were in the same pool but that's a bit complex for this simple idea.


That pool round further finalises the seeding for knockout round of 16. So #1 pool has essentially duked it out for finals seeding already (better venue planning), and to see who they go up against 16, 15,etc etc. Actually I think I might prefer a single pool round for seeding, and introduce the home and away for Ro16, quarters, and semis (stuffs up venue hire). General idea to produce the most competitive matches possible until the random knockout phase, and fix the random lottery of which two teams get ranked higher after pool play, and also keep the system identical for the Challenge Cup so everthing is succinct. Top T2 side promoted from last year to make 16 in Challenge Cup

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JW 9 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I had a look at the wiki article again, it's all terribly old data (not that I'd see reason for much change in the case of SA).

Number Of Clubs:

1526

Registered+Unregistered Players:

651146

Number of Referees:

3460

Pre-teen Male Players:

320842

Pre-teen Female Player:

4522

Teen Male Player:

199213

Teen Female Player:

4906

Senior Male Player:

113174

Senior Female Player:

8489

Total Male Player:

633229

Total Female Player:

17917


So looking for something new as were more concerned with adults specifically, so I had a look at their EOY Financial Review.

The total number of clubs remains consistent, with a marginal increase of 1% from 1,161 to 1,167. 8.1.

A comparative analysis of verified data for 2022 and 2023 highlights a marginal decline of 1% in the number of female players, declining from 6,801 to 6,723. Additionally, the total number of players demonstrates an 8% decrease, dropping from 96,172 to 88,828.

So 80k+ adult males (down from 113k), but I'm not really sure when youth are involved with SAn clubs, or if that data is for some reason not being referenced/included. 300k male students however (200k in old wiki data).


https://resources.world.rugby/worldrugby/document/2020/07/28/212ed9cf-cd61-4fa3-b9d4-9f0d5fb61116/P56-57-Participation-Map_v3.pdf has France at 250k registered but https://presse-europe1-fr.translate.goog/exclu-europe-1-le-top-10-des-sports-les-plus-pratiques-en-france-en-2022/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp has them back up at 300k registered.


The French number likely Students + Club, but everyone collects data different I reckon. In that WR pdf for instance a lot of the major nations have a heavily registered setup, were as a nation like England can penetrate into a lot more schools to run camps and include them in the reach of rugby. For instance the SARU release says only 29% of schools are reached by proper rugby programs, where as the 2million English number would be through a much much higer penetration I'd imagine. Which is thanks to schools having the ability to involve themselves in programs more than anything.


In any case, I don't think you need to be concerned with the numbers, whether they are 300 or 88k, there is obviously a big enough following for their pro scenes already to have enough quality players for a 10/12 team competition. They appear ibgger than France but I don't really by the lower English numbers going around.

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