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Leinster verdict on beating Munster, 'glaring' Ringrose incident

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Saturday night’s 21-16 victory over Irish rivals Munster wasn’t enough to edge Leinster to the top of the URC table after six rounds of matches, but their results are becoming ominously good ahead of next month’s start to the Champions Cup.

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Of the 40 clubs across the top three leagues – URC, Top 14 and Premiership – only England’s Saracens can currently match Leinster’s five-match winning streak.

There was criticism about the role Garry Ringrose defensively played in their concession of an early Munster try, but head coach Leo Cullen let his co-captain off the hook and instead dwelt on the positives a fortnight out from their December 10 trip to La Rochelle, the Ronan O’Gara-led French club that has beaten them three seasons on the bounce in Europe, including the past two finals.

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Reflecting on when he felt was “a great spectacle” due to the level of commitment exhibited by both sides in front of a bumper 50,000 attendance, Cullen gave Ireland midfielder Ringrose a free pass for blatantly missing Simon Zebo inside the Munster half, a slip that ignited the break which culminated in a Craig Casey try and had visiting supporters believing they could repeat last May’s URC semi-final triumph over Leinster.

“When someone makes a decision to shoot out of the line which is okay, there is full license for him to do that,” said Cullen in relation to the latest defensive error by the Leinster player whose missed tackle statistics often don’t read well.

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“There is definitely a little bit of coverage we can be better at for sure early in the game, but there are a lot of parts of performance we can be better at. That’s just one specific piece. Obviously, it results in a try so it becomes a bit more glaring, but that was the only try we conceded in the game.”

Cullen, who still wasn’t sure of the exact date when the Springboks head coach, Jacques Nienaber, will join him to begin on the Leinster managerial ticket, had used the match-up with Munster and the previous week’s fixture against Scarlets to bleed a huge chunk of his Ireland World Cup contingent back into the side.

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How did he feel his reunited team was now gelling ahead of a December schedule featuring away games at Connacht, La Rochelle and Munster with a match at home to Sale also on their radar? “I have gone off that term a bit, Irish guys,” he suggested. “The Leinster guys, they are all back together now. We are trucking along okay.

“We have used a good chunk of players in the first six rounds and so when you use a good chunk of players we are probably a bit off in terms of cohesion. If you think a World Cup squad is 33 players and people are on about the different combinations you would use, we have used 45, something like that, over the first six rounds.

“It’s a good chunk of players and there is still some more to come back into the mix as well. We are up and running. We had a disappointing start against Glasgow, defensively we had plenty of things to work on from that day. We conceded five tries that day, and we have won five games since then. We are far from perfect but we’re building.

“We had a good week. I put a bit on the players this week because we were down in Carlow and Kilkenny (for open training), so there was a big demand on the players and if we had lost that game (to Munster), people would look at me and go, ‘Here, what were we doing that there?’ But there is a much broader piece there in terms of trying to grow support.

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“I thought it was a really positive few days down there. Like, it’s an unbelievably positive crowd out there (at the Aviva). That is to be celebrated. To have 50,000 people at a round-six game in this competition is unbelievable.

“Why have 50,000 people turned up? Because it’s a full-blooded game with two sets of players that are going full tilt. Yes, there is the odd mistake in the game, of course there is, but they are all human beings at the end of the day and us as coaches, it’s how we prepare them going into the game as well. But it’s a great advert for the game, a brilliant advert I think.”

The coach didn’t have an update on the seriousness of the injury that forced out-half Ross Byrne off early, but he had fulsome praise for Ciaran Frawley’s effort off the bench. “It’s arm-related. Hopefully, it’s not too bad. Ciaran stepped in well. We wanted to see what that looks like and he was excellent, controlled the game.

“Even though he started the season playing 15 for us, the way those roles are, particularly with someone like Ciaran, he is comfortable stepping up as that first receiver, that interplay between your 10, 12, 15, so it is great to have that second ball player there.

“He has been excellent for us this season and hopefully that will be the case going forward. He stepped in, kicked his goals. It was a pretty accomplished performance from him.”

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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