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'Let's not sugarcoat it': All Blacks assistant on where the team is after losses to Boks

TJ Perenara of New Zealand leads the haka during The Rugby Championship match between New Zealand All Blacks and Argentina at Eden Park on August 17, 2024 in Auckland, New Zealand. (Photo by Dave Rowland/Getty Images)

All Blacks assistant coach Jason Ryan says the team has reflected on their recent test series in South Africa, acknowledging both missed opportunities and the challenging environment against the world champions.

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The held a commanding 27-17 lead in Johannesburg heading into the final quarter having put four tries on but saw it slip away with an ill-disciplined finish as the bench struggled to maintain control.

In Cape Town the side built a 12-3 lead before being overtaken by South Africa 13-12. The failure to convert kicks from goal into points hurt as the Springboks found another try late to seal the win.

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“We sort of feel like we’ve missed the opportunities, and we just need to finish better in all honesty,” Ryan said.

“And that’s different areas of our game. It’s not one thing in particular, but it’s different parts of our own areas that we need to be honest about.

“But, you know, like full credit to the South Africans, the world champions, and they’re right on top of their game, and it’s where we want to get to.”

The team has “had a hard look at themselves” over the break week and have come away with mixed feelings after suffering back-to-back defeats.

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One the one hand, they are proud of their efforts in specific areas but the lingering disappointment of the end result hangs over the team.

“I think optimistic is a great word, to be honest. I think that, you know, we really are we,” Ryan said.

“We are excited by how hard we pushed South Africa, but we’re not satisfied by not getting across the line.

“But I don’t know, in a weird way, you sort of, when you don’t get the victories, you actually naturally look harder at yourselves.

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“And that’s what we’ve done, we’ve looked really hard at ourselves in our own areas. We’ve had to, you know, like, let’s not sugarcoat it.

“We’ve just lost a couple of Tests in a row, so we have done that and but we are optimistic about where we’re heading.”

 

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CD older/wiser 188 days ago

Using a different kicker with a few of the longer AB's penalties may have helped. One Ref didn't seem to want to recognize Scott Barrett as the capt. seemed more interested in conversing with a former capt.

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B 188 days ago

Jason Ryans' last comment doesn't sugar coat his enthusiasm about being hopeful and confident of the All Blacks progressing in the right direction going forward.

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Bull Shark 188 days ago

Let’s not sugarcoat it. This article told us nothing.


I can’t believe Ben is head of Editorial at Rugbypass.

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DP 189 days ago

The team is still 3rd in the world rankings, just one place behind the best team in the world and then it's the Springboks at the top.

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DV 189 days ago

To the quarterfinals and never beyond . Best team by far .

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PB 189 days ago

Lol just one place behind the best team 😂😂😂😂

Cool bananas, we don’t mind the ratings by dummies!

We know , what we know.

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CR 189 days ago

nz will smash Aus, beat their chests again . Heck, Ben Smith might even climb out of his hole and write a nasty article about the Boks again.

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Teddy 189 days ago

Even Foster had a better record across his first run of 7 games. Yikes!


Maybe they need to start nicking PI coaches as well as players?

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Jen 188 days ago

I'm pretty sure Foster started with easier games though - like playing Aussie in our own backyard etc.

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Rooksie 188 days ago

Come on bro ..u seem to worry more about our team then your own ..pretty sure u say u are Irish..shouldn't u be more worried about getting past the quarter finals in world cup ..let's put up some facts ..Foster as all blacks coach had Richie..Smith ..Coles ..Frizell...Whitelock..Retallick ..that's 6 players who Foster at the end of his coaching days had to choose from ...566 test caps between them ..Smith on of the all time best half backs ever ..Whitelock and Retallick 260 test caps between and one-off the best lock pair in world rugby..and Richie just a magnificent number 10 ...So u know u just nick picking

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JWH 189 days ago

Foster had easy games mate. Not to mention a fucking loaded squad. Greatest NZ locking pair of all time, one of the best first fives in the world, best NZ halfback of all time, and great talent coming up ie Ardie Savea, Scott Barrett, Jordie Barrett, Rieko Ioane, Will Jordan, etc. Had some great players leave too, but not to the same extent. Ben Smith, Israel Dagg, Keiran Reed.

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Mzilikazi 8 minutes ago
'Ulster, though no one wants to admit it, isn't much more than a development province right now.'

“I’d love to know the relevant numbers of who comes into professionalism from a club, say as an adult, versus early means like say pathway programmes “


Not sure where you would get that information, JW. But your question piqued my interest, and I looked at the background of some Ulster players. If you are interested/have the time, look at the Wiki site for Ulster rugby, and scroll down to the current squad, where you can then click on the individual players, and often there is good info. on their pathway to Ulster squad.


Not many come in from the AIL teams directly. Robert Baloucoune came from Enniskillen into the Ulster setup, but that was after he played Sevens for Ireland. Big standout missed in his school years is Stuart McCloskey, who never played for an age group team, and it was only after he showed good form playing for AIL team Dungannon, that he was eventually added late to Ulster Academy.


“I’m just thinking ahead. You know Ireland is going to come into the same predicament Aus is at where that next group of youngsters waiting to come into programmes get picked off by the French”


That is not happening with top young players in Ireland. I can’t think of a single example of one that has gone to a French club, or to any other country. But as you say, it could happen in the future.


What has happened to a limited extent is established Irish players moving offshore, but they are few. Jonathan Sexton had a spell with Racing in France…not very successful. Simon Zebo also went over to Racing. Trevor Brennan went to Toulouse, stayed there too, with his sons now playing in France, one at Toulouse, one at Toulon. And more recently the two tens, Joey Carbery to Bordueax, and Ben Healy to Edinburgh.


“I see they’ve near completed a double round robin worth of games, does that mean theres not much left in their season?”


The season finishes around mid April. Schools finish on St Patrick’s Day, 17 th Match. When I lived in Ireland, we had a few Sevens tournaments post season. But never as big a thing as in the Scottish Borders, where the short game was “invented”.

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Poorfour 1 hour ago
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So “it wasn’t foul play because it wasn’t foul play” is - to you - not only an acceptable answer but the only possible answer?


I would hope that the definition of foul play is clear enough that they can say “that wasn’t foul play - even though it resulted in a serious injury - because although player A did not wrap with the right arm, he entered the ruck through the gate and from a legal angle at a legal height, and was supporting his own weight until player B entered the ruck behind him and pushed him onto player C’s leg” or “that wasn’t foul play although players D and E picked player F out of a ruck, tipped him upside down and dropped him on his shoulder because reasons.”


Referees sometimes offer a clear explanation, especially when in discussion with the TMO, but they don’t always, especially for incidents that aren’t reviewed on field. It’s also a recognised flaw in the bunker system that there isn’t an explanation of the card decisions - I’d personally prefer the bunker to prepare a short package of the best angles and play back to the ref their reasoning, with the ref having the final say, like an enhanced TMO. It would cost a few more seconds, but would help the crowd to understand.


Greater clarity carries with it risks - not least that if the subsequent feedback is at odds with the ref’s decision they run the risk of harassment on social media - but rugby is really struggling to show that it can manage these decisions consistently, and offering a clear explanation after the fact would help to ensure better consistency in officiating in future.

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