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Liam Jack: 'I'd to grab an emergency passport to get on the ride'

Liam Jack steps off the New Zealand bus at a recent game in South Africa (Photo by Thinus Maritz/World Rugby)

There was a light-hearted moment last week when Liam Jack was standing at a hotel table in Cape Town talking to RugbyPass about his fledgling career and his unfolding adventure with New Zealand at the World Rugby U20 Championship.

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Halfway through the conversation, he was approached by staff to see if he was interested in availing of any spa treatments – facials, pedicures and the like – that were available that afternoon. A polite no was the understandable answer.

The 6ft 6in, 110kgs lock naturally wanted to look grizzly for his opposition, not radiant. It’s a big deal the Baby Blacks doing well again at U20s level. They were once the standard-setting powerhouse, reeling off the first four titles in succession after the U19 and U21 grades were amalgamated in 2008.

It was 2017 in Georgia when the last of their six titles was won. They finished fourth the following year, going on to endure successive seventh places in 2019 and 2023, but they are now back dining at the top table, qualifying for Sunday’s semi-final versus France as the No1-ranked side at the 12-team tournament.

Their improvement had been sign-posted in May with success at the maiden staging of the age-grade Rugby Championship in Australia. “It was great to go away as a group and play in a tournament before this tournament, create a great team culture and put together some great games,” said Jack. “We want to do well.”

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They are. Twenty-four hours after Jack optimistically said his piece, New Zealand were pipping France at the death, Rico Simpson landing an 80th-minute penalty kick for the 27-26 win in Stellenbosch.

As luck would have, these same countries will now face off again just 10 days later in the semi-finals at the DHL Stadium. A fiercely physical battle is expected but Jack wouldn’t have it any other way. After all, getting stuck in is part of the family heritage.

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Dad Graham was a 1998 Super Rugby title winner for the Crusaders as a lock and the family reputation in the game was further fuelled by Graham’s brother Chris becoming a 67-cap All Black in the engine room, a career that included two World Cups and plenty of titles with the Crusaders.

“I always knew they were pretty good. There are photos of me watching All Blacks games, all rugged up in All Blacks jersey and stuff. I always looked up to them,” he said about his family. “Rugby was never something I was forced to do, it was just a game that I enjoyed

“When I was 11, I transferred from soccer to rugby. I just wanted to play the country’s game, New Zealand’s game. I was a soccer defender. I started tackling people and then decided it was time to change.”

Jack was always a big teenager and standing out from the crowd wasn’t a burden. Neither has been his surname. “I have always been tall. It was good. Just be proud of how tall you are and just own it.

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“I don’t think I am seen as that [son of Graham, nephew of Chris] at the moment. I’d say people have got their own personalities. Ethan Blackadder [son of Todd], he has his own personality. That’s how it is.

“Dad was a bit earlier (than Chris) but I have the tapes you can put into the video recorder and watch the games. He was a great player, didn’t miss many tackles…

“They just let me find my own feet. If I have a question for them they will answer. They are pretty chill. It could be just a little thing about outside of rugby like I am struggling to do something with my routine; they have that experience, they have done it before and they can give me advice on it.”

A Crusaders fan from a young age, Jack started at Rolleston Rugby Club before the schools became the pathway taking him from Selwyn to Christ’s College and now onto Lincoln University Rams while studying architecture.

It was at high school where he twigged his rugby potential. “When you had to go to trainings and start going into the gym putting extra effort into it, that was when I realised if I can keep putting enough effort into it you can make it into a thing you can be proud of. I am good with routine, it gives you purpose. I enjoy it.”

He was blindsided earlier this year, though. Just days before Rob Penney’s Crusaders flew out of New Zealand on their Anglo-Irish tour, a call was made for Jack to tag along. “My passport wasn’t ready,” he confessed.

“I had to grab an emergency passport to get on the ride. I knew probably five days out that I was going but I should have had my passport ready. I didn’t think I was going to go so I was like, I’ll just get it ready for Australia if I make the New Zealand U20s team’ and then it was, ‘Wow, I better get it ready right now’.

The situation resolved, he lapped up the two-game experience from the fringes. “That was a surprise call-up for me. I was just in there for development. They brought me along for injury cover to Ireland and England.

“It was a pretty cool experience seeing the professionals and how they worked day in day out, how they operated. Some bits of gold from the likes of the players and the coaching as well. It was good.”

What most stood out? “Probably the Munster game, I remember watching from the crowd and how energetic the crowd was and how much people were there and how much of an atmosphere it was. It was pretty awesome. A great game.

“I was in there for a few more weeks (with Penney’s squad) and then went into the U20s set-up for the Crusaders. It’s about just working hard, working on my skills and working on my gym and seeing where it takes me.

“Height-wise, I doubt if I get any taller than I am now. Weight-wise, about 116 (is the target). It’s relatively important but your ability to move around the field is just as important as well. You want to get that size but you want to be able to get around the park as well.

“I want to play for the Crusaders. I’m a fan, big time. We all the time would go to the games. Yeah, there have been challenges (in Penney’s first year) but they definitely got to the end of the season looking pretty good. Just unlucky to miss out (on the play-offs).”

Despite his family lineage in rugby, it is the recently retired Sam Whitelock who is Jack’s idol. “He is just one of the greats of the game, sets the standard, his lineout ability and just his ability around the park is pretty awesome.

“You’d seen it in that game against Ireland at the World Cup, that showed how good he is. I have met him before. I remember seeing him when I came to one of my first trainings with the Crusaders. Pretty scary but it’s cool.” Sure is.

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JW 3 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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