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The end of the line for Eddie Jones

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The concept of achievement in sport is not always easy to quantify. Sometimes a good display still ends in defeat due to the quality of the opposition – think of New Zealand’s cricket team being beaten by Ben Stokes in the last World Cup final.

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But most of the time results are as good a measure of success as any which is why we often hear: “Judge me at the end of the season,” or “Save your questions until after the next World Cup.”

We also have to factor in the quality of available resources – for example Italy are extremely unlikely to win the Six Nations given the Azzurri’s player and coaching pool and available funding. On this basis most of us would accept that a good team being better than the sum of its individual parts is a good barometer.

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Taking either of these yardsticks it is surely impossible to argue either that England currently have a high-performing, successful rugby team or that head coach Eddie Jones is doing a good job.

Indeed, in the light of his team’s latest defeat by Scotland and underwhelming win over injury-hit Wales, the RFU will come under huge pressure to replace Jones and his latest group of coaches ASAP if they also lose to Ireland and France over the next three weeks.

English rugby’s governing body has in recent times made financial cuts left, right and centre across the semi-pro and amateur games due to the effects of COVID plus its poorer than expected commercial performance following huge investment in Twickenham. As a result, community coaches have been made redundant in numbers while clubs in England’s second tier – the Championship – now receive almost no financial support.

However, it seems Team England has dodged the worst of these cut-backs and remains so colossally well-funded that its £20,000 per game players and superbly resourced coaching team are the envy of the world. Whatever Jones wants by way of staff, facilities and back-up he gets – yet his team remains an under-performing mish-mash with no clear identity, medium-term strategy or definable game-plan.

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Meanwhile, the veteran Aussie mixes waspish put-downs of anyone daring to question his methods with cheeky chap quips and cryptic comments hinting at a wider masterplan which will, at some undefined point in the future, miraculously become obvious to us all. Or put another way he’s creating a giant smokescreen.

How long is too long?

Eddie Jones
Eddie Jones (Photo by Dan Mullan – RFU/The RFU Collection via Getty Images)

If he survives to the end of France 2023 Eddie Jones will have been at the helm of the England team for two complete World Cup cycles spanning eight years.

To give this some context, England’s longest-serving head coach Sir Clive Woodward did seven years during which his team won a World Cup. In cricket only Duncan Fletcher survived eight years, as did Sir Bobby Robson who led England’s football team between 1982 and 90. This means only Sir Alf Ramsey whose 12 years included the historic 1966 triumph, will by 2023 have lasted longer at the helm of a national team in one of our three main sports than the 62-year-old former hooker.

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Three knighthoods suggest – quite rightly – that these men are legends of English sport. If Jones survives and his team wins the next World Cup he may well join them, but that looks a million miles away at the moment when even mentioning his name in the same breath seems ludicrous.

It is easy to forget that Jones’ time at the helm began with a long unbeaten run which delivered a Grand Slam in 2016 and a championship in 2017. England also finished as runners-up in Japan 2019, but since then very little has gone well. Eight years is a long time for players and coaches to listen to one boss and it seems that the honeymoon period is well and truly over.

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A Marmite Boss
While few would admit it publicly, not all of England’s players are especially fond of Jones’ approach. To a degree this will always be the case with any boss, but the physical toll his sessions take on bodies already exposed to large amounts of competitive rugby is significant and injuries in England camp seem to occur with worrying frequency.

The sizeable turnover of coaching and support staff is perhaps a more concerning feature of Jones’ time as England boss. Some seriously capable coaches including Premiership-topping Steve Borthwick have left the camp to pursue opportunities in the club game and in all honesty the profile of Jones’ backroom team is as a result a fair bit lower than – for example – the French set-up.

It’s Eddie’s way or the highway for players and support staff, and since he carries the can this is far from unreasonable. However, when the environment created is just too difficult for those working within it, even when they have the skills to make a significant contribution, the wider England team is suffering so surely something has to give?

What are Jones’ England trying to achieve?
Good question. Successive England teams in the professional era have featured a big nasty pack whose scrummage and driving maul present a major threat. Jones started his time in charge by saying he wanted to harness these traditional strengths but has then consistently contradicted this through an approach to selection which places little value on front five forwards whose core strengths are in the tight.

Kyle Sinckler now has 50 caps, but as his late call-up for last year’s Lions tour showed he is not considered a tighthead whose scrummaging stands up to the kind of scrutiny imposed by world-class opponents from the likes of South Africa, France or Ireland.

Veteran Harlequin Joe Marler is probably England’s best scrummager, but he has rarely been first choice at loosehead where the handling and running skills of Mako Vunipola then Ellis Genge have condemned him to long spells on the bench.

Similarly, at hooker the traditional throwing and scrummaging skills which Jamie George brings have for the last year slipped behind Luke Cowan-Dickie’s all-court running game, while the next cab off the rank is Newcastle’s Jamie Blamire whose main claim to fame to date is a 50-metre sprint to the Twickenham try-line.

A row further back in the scrum a similar trend is found. From Bakkies Botha to Martin Johnson to Alun Wyn Jones to Eben Etzebeth a grafting, hard man has featured in most successful teams. Dave Attwood would have been this player in many people’s England team for the majority of the Jones era, but instead he has usually opted for the mobility brought by the likes of Joe Launchbury, George Kruis and Courtney Lawes alongside Maro Itoje.

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He favours an attacking wide game then?
Not really; in fact, England went through 2020/21 kicking the cover off the ball at every opportunity despite not doing it especially well.

Thankfully, after finishing fifth in the Six Nations they resumed playing with ball in hand with a shadow side last summer and that approach has since continued. But with Jonny May on the sidelines Jones rarely selects players like Newcastle’s Adam Radwan who offers genuine pace in the outside channels.

Instead he opts for the safer defensive option provided by the all-round footballing talents of Jack Nowell, Elliot Daly and Max Malins – all extremely competent but very similar players. The contrast between the pace and power provided in the round three Six Nations clash by Wales’ Alex Cuthbert and Josh Adams and England’s wingers – who always seemed to step inside and look for support rather than seeking space – was vivid.

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The Manu Conundrum
Manu Tuilagi won his first cap more than a decade ago under Martin Johnson’s coaching regime. Since 2011 he has delivered some memorable displays in an England shirt in between long spells on the sidelines recuperating from injury.

England with Tuilagi are an entirely different proposition, but he has only appeared in around a third of the 120-odd games his country have played since he won his first cap.

Using available data to make informed decisions is one of the key facets of any management role in any walk of life, and by now most of us have concluded that England cannot build their playing structures around their best player since he is so rarely available. However, Jones appears to cling to the hope that a brave new world including an always-fit Tuilagi is just around the corner and that a midfield sticking plaster will do the job in the meantime.

Therefore, instead of seeking an (admittedly lesser) alternative that plays in a similar style, enables England to get over the gainline and develop a consistent style of play that suits them, he shifts the team’s entire attacking approach by naming a second flyhalf alongside a Jeremy Guscott/Clive Woodward style no.13 with plenty of pace but not much power.

On this basis, Gloucester’s Mark Atkinson has followed Worcester’s Ollie Lawrence as the latest Tuilagi lookalike to be discarded following a handful of caps while England fans despair as the likes of Owen Farrell, Henry Slade and Elliot Daly are asked to truck the ball up against 16 or 17 stone opponents.

Does he select on form?
Perhaps the most exasperating aspect of Jones’ tenure is the scattergun approach to selection in which form is seemingly an irrelevance.

The Times’ Will Kelleher has maintained records which showed that prior to the current Six Nations Jones had called up 174 players of whom 73 never actually went on to win a cap. Jones seemingly delights in calling up unproven youngsters only to then discard them and move on to the next relative unknown, perhaps in the hope of unearthing another unpolished diamond like Tom Curry or Freddie Steward.

Yet in a bizarrely contradictory approach, when the ‘old guard’ of Dylan Hartley, Chris Robshaw et al who he inherited from Stuart Lancaster were losing form, replacing them with the likes of George and Sam Underhill who were tearing up the Premiership was an exercise undertaken with extreme reluctance.

Similarly, as England floundered in 2020/21 the Vunipolas, Farrell, Daly and sundry other misfiring Saracens whose club rugby was then being played in the Championship were never in danger of losing their places to the likes of Marcus Smith and Alex Dombrandt who at the time were spearheading Harlequins’ charge to the Premiership title.

Perhaps the extreme case is that of Wasps scrum half Dan Robson, whose consistent brilliance for his club never got him beyond the fringes of Jones’ England. Had the now 30-year-old replaced Ben Youngs, whose form has seen plenty of peaks and troughs, five years ago he would have 50 caps by now and potentially be a star of the international game.

To cap off this eclectic approach to selection, even with England desperate for ball-carrying heft in the absence of Tuilagi it would seem there is no way back for Billy or Mako Vunipola even though both have put in some eye-catching performances for Sarries since being left out.

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What happens next?
Based on what we have seen so far this year, despite beating South Africa in the Autumn England are a long way behind Ireland and France and will start both their remaining Six Nations games as underdogs.

The Twickenham factor and French Grand Slam nerves may come to their aid, but in all honesty if England were to meet either team on a neutral ground in a World Cup quarter-final they would currently lose a lot more often than they won.

And should England suffer two defeats and finish fourth or fifth in this year’s table something major has to change if they are to deliver any kind of challenge at next year’s World Cup – and this could well start with the appointment of a new head coach.

With a World Cup around 18 months away any sacking needs to happen immediately, since Jones’ replacement – who could be an interim with a contract to the end of France 2023 – must be given as much time as possible to make a mark.

However – and the irony of this will not be lost on those rugby nations who look at Jones’ resources with envious eyes – given their financial position we have to question if the RFU can afford to part company with their head coach and his support team.

The other relevant factor is who would succeed him? Warren Gatland would be top of many wish lists while Borthwick, Pat Lam and Rob Baxter would doubtless have their supporters.

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David 1020 days ago

Jones has done a very good job…and remember his achievements outrank any other coach in union. He brought Japan from the wilderness to defeat South Africa. He brought Australia - a country that hardly plays rugby union- to a world cup final, as also England.
It could be argued that to win a RWC you have to avoid playing NZ in a semi final, because even if you win, you are far too
mentally exhausted to then win a final. This has happened TWICE
to Jones, winning a semi against NZ and then losing narrowly in the final with both Australia and England.
The fact is that English players aren’t as good as other smaller countries, and limited access by the national coach cant change that!

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Josh 1020 days ago

Biased load of crap is the best way to describe this article. What are the credentials of this author?
Short term view indeed.

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Johnbad 1020 days ago

'On borrowed time' - England fans aren't happy with Eddie Jones
He is passed his sell by date. This was about 5 years ago. Arrogant and KNOWS EVERYTHING!!!
FO for GO

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Alex 1020 days ago

What about his treatment of Danny Care and only taking one scrum half to the World Cup, both actions undermined England’s efforts in the final - ie Youngs needed replacing but his autocratic small-mindedness meant only a jet-lagged under-experienced lad who had hardly trained with squad was on the bench. Moreover, the ‘mind games’ he plays with players and coaches alike could be viewed as mental workplace bullying in any other sphere!

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Jason 1020 days ago

Gatland would put England back 12 years - Cockerill is already being groomed as Eddie's replacement for after the next WC.

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Gary 1020 days ago

Eddie is well past his use by date having wasted a huge talent pool in English rugby since 2018. Eddie has brought a negative nasty style of play to English rugby rather than a celebration of a great team playing a winning style of rugby. Blame the RFU board for letting Eddie carry on and not be held accountable for unacceptable results. Leave now Eddie, no one will miss you.

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BOBO 1020 days ago

Poor article with a clickbait headline. If you want people to pay for your premium service you have to do better than this.

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adam 1021 days ago

Sorry RP this is a very poor ill informed article, its pure contradictions within the article and with the past 2 years of articles. Surprised this made it onto the site, Just makes the site look like a weak hello magazine

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Josh 1022 days ago

Some bizarre points here. There are definitely things to criticise Jones on, but his non-selection of Attwood?! Launchbury weighs 7kgs more than Attwood! And Atkinson, although big, is a very different player from Manu. Really not sure Dan Robson would be an international star by now either! Consistency in selection policy is also important, you can't just chop and change all the time based on form.

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lot 1022 days ago

EJ is giving you the players you pressured him to and now you're calling for his head coz not barnstorming as much. How stupid 😲 are you and this little stupid article. Why not suggest a better gameplan while you're at it. If you cannot, then zip it! The stars of the Premiership are given a shot, and they need 3 yrs to mature with more loss and games like this.

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JW 1 hour ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

Like I've said before about your idea (actually it might have been something to do with mine, I can't remember), I like that teams will a small sustainable league focus can gain the reward of more consistent CC involvement. I'd really like the most consistent option available.


Thing is, I think rugby can do better than footballs version. I think for instance I wanted everyone in it to think they can win it, where you're talking about trying to make so the worst teams in it are not giving up when they are so far off the pace that we get really bad scorelines (when that and giving up to concentrate on the league is happening together). I know it's not realistic to think those same exact teams are going to be competitive with a different model but I am inclined to think more competitive teams make it in with another modem. It's a catch 22 of course, you want teams to fight to be there next year, but they don't want to be there next year when theres less interest in it because the results are less interesting than league ones. If you ensure the best 20 possible make it somehow (say currently) each year they quickly change focus when things aren't going well enough and again interest dies. Will you're approach gradually work overtime? With the approach of the French league were a top 6 mega rich Premier League type club system might develop, maybe it will? But what of a model like Englands were its fairly competitive top 8 but orders or performances can jump around quite easily one year to the next? If the England sides are strong comparatively to the rest do they still remain in EPCR despite not consistently dominating in their own league?


So I really like that you could have a way to remedy that, but personally I would want my model to not need that crutch. Some of this is the same problem that football has. I really like the landscape in both the URC and Prem, but Ireland with Leinster specifically, and France, are a problem IMO. In football this has turned CL pool stages in to simply cash cow fixtures for the also ran countries teams who just want to have a Real Madrid or ManC to lose to in their pool for that bumper revenue hit. It's always been a comp that had suffered for real interest until the knockouts as well (they might have changed it in recent years?).


You've got some great principles but I'm not sure it's going to deliver on that hard hitting impact right from the start without the best teams playing in it. I think you might need to think about the most minimal requirement/way/performance, a team needs to execute to stay in the Champions Cup as I was having some thougt about that earlier and had some theory I can't remember. First they could get entry by being a losing quarter finalist in the challenge, then putting all their eggs in the Champions pool play bucket in order to never finish last in their pool, all the while showing the same indifference to their league some show to EPCR rugby now, just to remain in champions. You extrapolate that out and is there ever likely to be more change to the champions cup that the bottom four sides rotate out each year for the 4 challenge teams? Are the leagues ever likely to have the sort of 'flux' required to see some variation? Even a good one like Englands.


I'd love to have a table at hand were you can see all the outcomes, and know how likely any of your top 12 teams are going break into Champions rubyg on th back it it are?

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fl 4 hours ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

"Right, so even if they were the 4 worst teams in Champions Cup, you'd still have them back by default?"

I think (i) this would literally never happen, (ii) it technically couldn't quite happen, given at least 1 team would qualify via the challenge cup, so if the actual worst team in the CC qualified it would have to be because they did really well after being knocked down to the challenge cup.

But the 13th-15th teams could qualify and to be fair I didn't think about this as a possibility. I don't think a team should be able to qualify via the Champions Cup if they finish last in their group.


Overall though I like my idea best because my thinking is, each league should get a few qualification spots, and then the rest of the spots should go to the next best teams who have proven an ability to be competitive in the champions cup. The elite French clubs generally make up the bulk of the semi-final spots, but that doesn't (necessarily) mean that the 5th-8th best French clubs would be competitive in a slimmed down champions cup. The CC is always going to be really great competition from the semis onwards, but the issue is that there are some pretty poor showings in the earlier rounds. Reducing the number of teams would help a little bit, but we could improve things further by (i) ensuring that the on-paper "worst" teams in the competition have a track record of performing well in the CC, and (ii) by incentivising teams to prioritise the competition. Teams that have a chance to win the whole thing will always be incentivised to do that, but my system would incentivise teams with no chance of making the final to at least try to win a few group stage matches.


"I'm afraid to say"

Its christmas time; there's no need to be afraid!

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