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'Marcus is not the answer... I don't think he's got what it takes'

Marcus Smith takes part in a England rugby training session at Pennyhill Park on March 04, 2024 in Bagshot, England. (Photo by Warren Little/Getty Images)

Steve Borthwick inherited many problems when he replaced Eddie Jones as England’s head coach in 2022, but the defect that probably stood out most of all was their faltering attack.

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The current boss has done little to catalyse a sea change in this department, but has been quick to point out that it is the area that takes the longest to develop and he has prioritised addressing other concerning parts of England’s game, which is becoming increasingly well documented.

Plenty of answers have been thrown Borthwick’s way over the past year on how to solve this problem, but the solution that has frequently been suggested since Jones’ era is to start Harlequins No10 Marcus Smith consistently. Former South Africa centre Robbie Fleck is not convinced though.

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The 25-year-old has recovered from the calf injury that kept him out of the opening three rounds of the Guinness Six Nations to take his place on the bench against Ireland at Twickenham on Saturday.

With Owen Farrell out of the Test picture for the time being, this was initially seen as the Six Nations where Smith could take hold of the No10 jersey having rarely been given the opportunity under Borthwick. Save for the opening 20 minutes against Scotland, Smith would have watched England’s listless attack splutter for the first three matches and been frothing at the mouth in desperation to play.

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However, speaking of RPTV’s Boks Office recently, the 31-cap Springbok said he does not believe the Harlequin has what it takes to unlock elite Test defences, unlike a player like Scotland’s Finn Russell.

This is a bold claim, particularly as the 30-cap fly-half has spent much of his Test career so far behind Farrell and George Ford, as well as playing alongside an assortment of centres.

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The simple response to this view is to hand Smith a run of games in the starting XV. He has been robbed of that this Six Nations, and had to settle for being fashioned into a fullback during the World Cup, but will perhaps have the opportunity in New Zealand in July to test himself against one of the world’s best and prove Fleck right or wrong.

“I don’t think he’s the answer, to be honest,” the South African said.

“A great club player and against lesser Test sides, he will always open them up. But if you’re marking yourself against the best, which is the Boks and Irish defence systems, I don’t think he can unlock them.

“I think he’s too erratic, he will try the miracle stuff which may come off but in terms of a general game management point of view, I don’t think he’s got what it takes to deliver the killer blow against those top sides.

“The one guy I do think can do that is Finn Russell. He’s proven it time and time again. But Marcus is not the answer for me.”

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Whether Fleck believes Smith is not the answer for England altogether or not the answer under this current set-up and mindset is not necessarily clear, but his compatriot Schalk Burger suggested it is the current England regime that lets Smith down, saying he would thrive in a team like Scotland.

The flanker said: “If Marcus Smith was playing for Scotland, where they’ve got a different mindset where they attack- like Duhan van der Merwe’s third try is exactly that. Turnover ball, Finn probably the worst kick of his life gets charged down, somehow lands in a Scottish hand, gets over the gainline, the very next touch is a cross-kick again.

“He’s not afraid of making mistakes. And I think this English side, because they’re not playing the amount of rugby that Scotland would want to play, if you make a mistake it gets amplified and I don’t think that suits him.

“Whereas at Harlequins, he can play.”

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Rugby 256 days ago

what you say now, humble pie

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Jaco 256 days ago

So… let`s watch the England/Ireland game again, Robbie.
Especially the last part with Marcus on the park.
He is absolutely the answer.

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Tom 257 days ago

Totally agree with Schalk. If Marcus were playing for Scotland people would rate him so much higher. He has just as much talent as a young Finn Russell, he's just not getting the opportunity which is why he will never reach Finn's level. Russell was always considered a rough diamond just like Marcus, it's only recently he's become a world class international ten. It's taken him a lot of highs and lows to turn that raw potential into consistency but the coaches encourage him to express himself and understand he will make mistakes. Marcus won't ever get that level of support and opportunity so he will never fulfill his potential, which is very sad.

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Bill 258 days ago

“not exactly a rugby intellectual.” and “the rugby IQ of an amoeba…” yep, 31 Tests for the Springboks, 15 caps for Bath, 56 caps for Western Province, 48 for the Stormers, then Assistant Coach at the Stormers, and then Head Coach at the Stormers for two years. Yep positive clueless, almost a moron

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Michael 258 days ago

Ah Robbie Fleck, not exactly a rugby intellectual.

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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