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Marcus Smith partly blames himself for England loss to NZ

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Marcus Smith of England warms up before the International Test Match between New Zealand All Blacks and England at Eden Park on July 13, 2024 in Auckland, New Zealand. (Photo by Phil Walter/Getty Images)

Marcus Smith admitted England had allowed another glorious opportunity to topple New Zealand slip away in a 24-17 defeat at Eden Park.

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Tries by Immanuel Feyi-Waboso and Tommy Freeman, set-up by kicks from Smith, helped Steve Borthwick’s men’ build a 17-13 lead heading into the final quarter, but the arrival of Beauden Barrett off the bench ignited the All Blacks.

New Zealand finished the match strongly to complete a 2-0 series victory having won the first Test 16-15 with the rivals meeting again at Twickenham on November 2.

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Smith, who kicked two conversions and a penalty, said fine margins were the difference between the teams.

“For me it was just the small moments. Eden Park is a historic place and we had the belief we could do something special,” Smith told Sky Sports.

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“It was probably the small moments – a touch at the breakdown, a few wrong decisions on the edges from myself – that turned the tie in the All Blacks’ favour.

“When they’re ahead, they’re obviously a very successful team and it’s hard to wrestle momentum back. Tough one to take.

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“We’re building to something and the belief we have is growing. On another day we get the result here, or the result last week.

“Fair play to New Zealand, they’re a tough team to beat. We’ll give them a good go in the autumn.”

England dominated territory and possession in the third quarter but could not engineer the points needed to put the All Blacks away at a point in the game when they were struggling for composure.

The tourists will look back on George Martin giving away a needless free-kick at a line-out and Jamie George fumbling as an attack gathered pace – both close to the whitewash – as key moments.

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“It’s tough. We’ve shown some improvement in the way we’re playing the game but this wasn’t good enough at the end of the day,” second row Maro Itoje said.

“In the second-half we were not as accurate as we wanted to be. We gave away a few too many penalties and we gave them easy points and easy territory. When you’re playing against a good team you can’t really do that.

“We gave them backfield opportunities to run it back to them and Beauden Barrett and the rest of them are good players. We live and we learn. We’re only going to get better for these experiences.”

New Zealand captain Scott Barrett admitted the All Blacks were forced to show character in both matches.

“I’m hugely proud of the boys to hold on and win the arm wrestle and finish off a good performance,” Barrett said.

“Test matches certainly test your character and we had to dig deep there right until the last minute. Well done to England, they’ve had two strong Test matches against us.”

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matt 126 days ago

1) insistence on the grubbers killed them, especially giving it to BB

2) why does underhill come off and chandler cumming stay on? I find he goes missing and runs too high.

3) smith was quite brilliant cool to see him develop

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Jmann 127 days ago

Don’t beat yourself up little man. Teams losing in NZ is the norm

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Anthony 127 days ago

England faded when Borthwick inexplicably brought on subs when perhaps only one was needed.
Same with grubber kicks. Management instruction .
Spencer was terrific in prem final and 2nd best 9 in the league.
Jvp has done nothing for a while and does not deserve promoting over Spencer until he does.
Lawrence needs a kick up the backside to get more involved and practice catching the ball .
Otherwise ,England just one or two players short of a cracking side .
Providing Borthwick learns to only bring subs on if required and not at predetermined times which wrecks momentum .
Very exciting times in view .

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John 127 days ago

ENG faded in the last 20 min….They need more depth and a 2nd Itoje

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Bob Salad II 127 days ago

I mean this with all respect, but that second half performance until Beauden came on was probably one of the most uninspiring AB performances I think I’ve ever seen, which makes England’s inability to put any points on them in the same period even more frustrating. I’m reading a lot of criticism of Itoje for the costly penalties he gave away, but the bottom line is those penalties occurred in or around the England 22 and it was because England kept gifting the ball back which allowed the ABs to get in Englands half of the pitch.

Going to take a few days to extract any positives from this tour, but I think what’s key is relatively, this is a very inexperienced England team compared to the ABs team that beat them. There’s clearly some great players in this AB team, but I think Robertson is a going to have his work cut out figuring out who goes where.

For England, I think I’d start by looking at Borthwick’s bench selection and ask some honest questions as to whether there were any other players left at home who might have contributed more had they been given the opportunity. I can’t for the life of me understand why T. Curry was on the bench twice given he’s returning from injury. Why not give his brother Ben a run out given their nearly identical attributes?

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Turlough 127 days ago

A few mistakes but lunacy to keep kicking grubbers to Beauden Barrett for a net gain of about -200m. I cant recall if it was Marcus or Fin Smith doing it, it may have been Fin. It looked like a planned tactic at that point, but someone must abandon it when its backfiring.
Martin made a major mistake which seemed to affect him for the remaining minutes.

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JW 30 minutes ago
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Yeah nar I pretty much agree with that sentiment, wasn't just about the lineout though.


Yeah, I think it's the future of SR, even TRC. Graham above just now posting about how good a night it was with a dbl header of ENGvSA and NZvFrance, and now I don't want to kick SA or Argentina out of TRC but it would be great if in this next of the woods 2 more top teams could come in to create more of these sort of nights (for rugby's appeal). Often Arg and SA and both travel here and you get those games but more often doesn't work out right.


Obviously a long way off but USA and Japan are the obvious two. First thing we need to do is get Eddie Jones kicked out of Japan so they can start improving again and then get a couple of US teams in SRP (even if one its just a US based and augmented Jaguares).


It will start off the whole conferences are crap debate again (which I will continue to argue vehemently against), but imagine a 6 team Pacific conference, Tokyo Sunwolves (drafted from Tokyo JRLO teams), Tokyo All Stars (made up of best remaining foreign players and overseas drafts), ALL Nihon (best of local non Tokyo based talent, inc China/Korea etc, with mainland Japan), a could of West Coast american franchises and perhaps a second self PI driven Hawai'i based team, or Jagaures. So I see a short NFL like 3 or 4 month comp as fitting best, maybe not even a full round, NZvAUSvPAC, all games taking place within a 6hr window. Model for NZ will definitely still require a competitive and funded NPC!


On the Crusaders, I liked last years ending with Grace on the bench (ovbiously form dependent but thats how it ended) and Lio-Willie at 8. I could have Blackadder trying to be a 7 but think balance will be used with him at 6 and Kellow as 7. Scott Barrett is an international 6 sized player. It is just NZ style/model that pushes him into the tight, I reckon he'd be a great loose player, and saders have Strange and Cahill as bigger players (plus that change could draw someone like Darry back). Same with Haig now, hes not grown yet but Barrett hight and been playing 6, now that the Highlanders have only chosen two locks he'll be playing lock, and that is going to change his growth trajectory massively, rather than seeing him grow like an International 6.

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Tom 47 minutes ago
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Interesting post. I realise that try was down to Marcus Smith not Slade, this is why I mentioned that England's attack is completely reliant on Smith working miracles. Just wanted to highlight that Slade's little touch was classy and most English players would have cocked it up. Earl has gas, he's very athletic but Underhill is nailed on at 7 in my eyes though. They both need to be on the pitch so we need a tall 6 or 8 to complement them which we have in CCS and potentially Ollie Chessum. We also have young Henry Pollock who may be the 7 by the world cup.


The whole attack needs an overhaul but Richard Wigglesworth our attack coach was a very limited scrum half who excelled at box kicking and had no running game. Spent most of his career with Saracens who mauled, defended and set pieced their way to victory.... Which might have been ok if Felix Jones hadn't quit and been replaced by a guy who coaches Oyonnax who have one of the worst defences in the French 2nd division. I'm not too emotionally invested in England right now because this coaching setup isn't capable of winning anything.


England had no attack when they were winning under Eddie either. They battered teams with huge dominant tackles and won from pressure. The last time England had any creativity in attack was the Stuart Lancaster/Mike Catt era. They played some fantastic attacking rugby but results were mediocre, lots of 2nd place finishes in the 6N although it felt like we were building something special until we got brutally dumped out of our home world cup in the pool stage.

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JW 1 hour ago
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As has been the way all year, and for all England's play I can remember. I missed a lot of the better years under Eddie though.


Lets have a look at the LQB for the last few games... 41% under 3 sec compared to 56% last week, 47% in the game you felt England best in against NZ, and 56 against Ireland.


That was my impression as well. Dunno if that is a lack of good counterattack ball from the D, forward dominance (Post Contact Meters stats reversed yesterday compared to that fast Ireland game), or some Borthwick scheme, but I think that has been highlighted as Englands best point of difference this year with their attack, more particularly how they target using it in certain areas. So depending on how you look at it, not necessarily the individual players.


You seem to be falling into the same trap as NZs supporters when it comes to Damien McKenzie. That play you highlight Slade in wasn't one of those LQB situations from memory, that was all on the brilliance of Smith. Sure, Slade did his job in that situation, but Smith far exceeded his (though I understand it was a move Sleightholme was calling for). But yeah, it's not always going to be on a platter from your 10 and NZ have been missing that Slade line, in your example, more often than not too. When you go back to Furbank and Feyi-Waboso returns you'll have that threat again. Just need to generate that ball, wait for some of these next Gen forwards to come through etc, the props and injured 6 coming back to the bench. I don't think you can put Earl back to 7, unless he spends the next two years speeding up (which might be good for him because he's getting beat by speed like he's not used to not having his own speed to react anymore).

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