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Marlie Packer: ‘Can we have two world players of the year?’

BORDEAUX, FRANCE - APRIL 27: England captain Marlie Packer (L) celebrates with team mate Alex Matthews after their Grand Slam Six Nations victory during the Guinness Women's Six Nations 2024 match between France and England at Stade Chaban-Delmas on April 27, 2024 in Bordeaux, France. (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

England captain Marlie Packer joked “can we have two World Players of the Year this year?” as she endorsed Red Roses teammates Ellie Kildunne and Alex Matthews ahead of Sunday’s World Rugby Awards ceremony in Monaco.

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Packer, the reigning World Rugby Women’s 15s Player of the Year, admitted she would be happy to hand over her crown to either of the Englishwomen in the running.

Kildunne and Matthews have been key to England’s impressive form in 2024, in which the Red Roses won another Women’s Six Nations Grand Slam, defended their WXV 1 title and extended their winning run to 20 matches.

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Full-back Kildunne scored 14 tries in 10 appearances, while No8 Matthews captained England for the first time during WXV 1 and was a near ever-present in the back row, starting all but one of the Red Roses’ matches this year.

The duo face competition from France scrum-half Pauline Bourdon Sansus and Canada centre Alex Tessier, but their England captain is adamant one of her colleagues should win.

“They’re both immensely special, gifted, talented. I could list off a load of positives about them,” Packer said.

“Can we have two World Players of the Year this year is my honest opinion because I think they both thoroughly deserve it.

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“I think the journey that Ellie’s been on with the Olympics, the way she’s played in the Red Roses shirt and not [only] that, what she’s done for the game, away from the pitch, the way she drives her lifestyle.

“But her drive away from the pitch for her 5022 [Studios], her photography, all of that kind of stuff just really encapsulates what an amazing person and player she is.

“And then Alex Matthews. I’ve been playing rugby with Alex Matthews for many years now. We won the 2014 World Cup together and I don’t think there’s anyone more deserving than her to win it.”

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Packer added: “Fingers crossed for both of them. But I hope to see at least one of them win it. I think one of them definitely deserves it.

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“I love Ellie to bits, but Alex is very deserving. I think Ellie, she’s got a lot more time to showcase what she’s about in the next few years.

“Whereas I’m not saying Alex doesn’t – I’m not retiring her or anything like that – but I’m just saying I think she’s just very deserving as well.”

Packer was speaking ahead of ‘The Duel’, Saracens’ Premiership Women’s Rugby encounter with London rivals Harlequins – and Kildunne – which you can watch live and for free this Sunday via RugbyPass TV (except in the UK, Ireland, Canada and the USA).

Following a couple of disappointing seasons, Harlequins head into the match with some form having won four matches in a row, including an impressive away victory at Bristol Bears.

That run, coupled with Saracens’ first defeat of the season at Exeter three weeks ago, means the visitors will arrive at StoneX Stadium one place above their hosts in the PWR table.

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Harlequins’ upturn in fortunes has coincided with the arrival of Wales flanker Alex Callender and Packer is excited for their personal battle this weekend.

“Alex Callender, she’s a great player,” Packer said. “A player that I would have loved to have played alongside, but always one that I relish playing against.

“She’s a great character off the pitch and on the pitch as well. She’s someone that you could be in a ruck, and she’s undoing your laces while you’re trying to get on with the game!

“So, you know a character that does make me laugh, and she’s a really good player, but one that you give the respect but also you need to make sure that you just bring your own A-game.

“I’m not worried about playing Alex, I’m not worried about playing Jade Konkel or any of the back-row. What I need to do is bring the best version of myself, Marlie Packer and make sure that I help lead the Saracens team in the way that we want to play and we want to conduct ourselves on Sunday.

“And if we do that all right, and if I do all of that right, we’ll come up with the right result.”

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Flankly 33 minutes ago
'England's blanket of despair feels overdone - they are not a team in freefall'

England have all the makings of a good team. We know that, and we have known that for years (including when Eddie was delivering disappointing results). But sometimes the positive comments about under-performing teams sound like describing a darts player as "fantastic, aside from their accuracy".


Its a trivial observation to say that scoring more points and preventing more points against you would result in better outcomes. And points difference does not mean much either, as it is generally less than 5 points with top teams. Usain Bolt would win the 100m sprint by 200 milliseconds (approximately two blinks of an eye), but that doesn't mean the others could easily beat him.


Also, these kinds of analyses tend to talk about how the team in question would just need to do X, Y and Z to win, but assume that opponents don't make any changes themselves. This is nonsense, as it is always the case that both teams go away with a list of work-ons. If we're going to think about what would have happened if team A had made that tackle, kicked that goal or avoided that penalty, the n let's think about what would have happened if team B had passed to that overlap, avoided that card, or executed that lineout maul.


There are lots of things that England can focus on for improvement, but for me the main observation is that they have not been able to raise their game when it matters. Playing your best game when it counts is what makes champions, and England have not shown that. And, for me, that's a coaching thing.


I expected Borthwick to build a basics-first, conservative culture, minimizing mistakes, staying in the game, and squeezing out wins against fancier opponents and game plans. It's not that he isn't building something, but it has taken disappointingly long, not least if you compare it to Australia since Schmidt took over, or SA after Rassie took over.

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