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Michael Cheika relishing latest coaching duel with Eddie Jones

Eddie Jones (L) talks to Australia's coach Michael Cheika before the international rugby union test match between England and Australia at Twickenham stadium in south-west London on November 24, 2018. (Photo by Adrian DENNIS / AFP) (Photo credit should read ADRIAN DENNIS/AFP via Getty Images)

Michael Cheika knows one swallow doesn’t make a summer as he tries to plot another rare coaching win over long-time friend and foe Eddie Jones.

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In a twist few could have imagined only a few months ago, the former Randwick teammates will renew their rivalry in Sydney on Saturday when Cheika’s Argentina side face Jones’ Wallabies in the Rugby Championship.

Both sides are searching for their first victory of 2023 after copping hidings from New Zealand and South Africa respectively last weekend.

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But, as ever, the narrative before the Commbank Stadium clash, is as much about the coaching duel between two of the best in the business who both readily admit hating to lose.

Much to his displeasure, Cheika lost seven times to Jones’ England team before finally masterminding a Pumas victory over them at Twickenham last year, before Jones was sacked and then appointed to replace Dave Rennie as Wallabies coach in January.

Cheika on Thursday, though, was careful not to claim bragging rights or poke the bear who has previously revelled in getting under his fiery counterpart’s skin with well-timed barbs.

“I wouldn’t say on the overall ledger that that’s the case. I’m still hungry for a few more, don’t worry,” he said after making four changes to his Pumas team that started in Sunday’s 41-12 loss to the All Blacks in Mendoza.

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“Eddie’s a quality coach and I think that’s why Australia wanted to have him back because he can add a lot to the team here, and I’m sure he will.

“They’re just in construction like where we’re starting our season too so he’s a high-quality coach and you always want to go up against high-quality coaches just to test yourself.”

While the build-up to their latest coaching showdown has lacked the usual edge, Cheika is making no secret of his desire to notch another win over Jones.

The biggest thing with Eddie is he’s a competitor and he wants to win and I’m pretty much the same,” he said.

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“We come from the same place really, just down at Coogee here.

“So that’s the one thing you know you’re going to get all the time. Styles can change and of course players have got to act that out on the field as well.

“But I thought it was a good call that Australia brought him back and I’m sure it will be. As long as it’s not when we’re playing against them.”

Cheika doesn’t agree with the theory that he’s under less pressure now coaching the Pumas than when he was while in charge of Australia.

“Pressure, there’s two types,” he said.

“There’s the pressure that’s applied from the outside and then there’s the pressure that you apply on yourself, and I’ve always applied maximum pressure on myself because that’s what I want to do.

“I want to test myself in the most difficult situations and see how I can help myself and the team come out on top. I want to be in that environment. I’m not worried about that environment.

“And that hardens you so that when you come to the external pressure, you’ve asked yourself all the questions that anyone wants to ask you anyway, if you’re being genuine with yourself.

“It’s more about ego. I want to win with Argentina as much as I’ve wanted to win with any other team I’ve coached.”

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Bob Marler 629 days ago

I like Eddie and all of his achievements. But unless he shuts up and starts winning - I fear his career may be coming to a close.

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carlos 629 days ago

Losers competition. Mouths bigger than there brains.

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