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'Might as well': John Kirwan calls for captain Cane to 'sit one out'

Dalton Papalii consoles Caleb Clarke of the All Blacks after The Rugby Championship match between the New Zealand All Blacks and Argentina Pumas at Orangetheory Stadium on August 27, 2022 in Christchurch, New Zealand. (Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

Former All Black John Kirwan has called for changes including a rest for captain Sam Cane in the second test against Argentina.

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After just two wins from six tests in 2022, the All Blacks have played their top available side in every match in search of results.

Typically against Los Pumas in the past, mass changes would be made and wider squad members often got game time and starts.

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This year the side is under immense pressure to turn around the Rugby Championship campaign where they sit in third place with a 1-2 record, leading to a selection conundrum heading into the must-win fixture.

Speaking on Sky Sport NZ’s The Breakdown, Kirwan called for captain Sam Cane and experienced lock Sam Whitelock to be rested.

“Should we blood some young guys in there? Do we need to rest Cane, rest Whitelock?” Kirwan asked.

“I’m not saying they won’t be good enough to go to the World Cup, but we need to start putting some of these young guys under fire.

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“We’ve lost so many games now, we might as well.”

With the number of test matches until the 2023 World Cup campaign quickly reducing, time is of the essence when it comes to building experience for players who may need to be thrust into starting roles in France.

Kirwan called for Blues captain and form No 7 Dalton Papalii to have a start this week after previously featuring at blindside and off the bench in the Ireland series.

“Both Whitelock and Cane look pretty tired to me,” he said.

“Maybe we need to go, ‘sit this one out, play against Aussie’. Just be open and honest about it. If you want to drop him, then drop him but tell the truth because I want to see Dalton Papalii out there.

“We’ve lost six out of the last eight, so let’s go, righto boys the competition is on. Sam you’re competing against Dalton. That’s just the way it is and we’ve all got to do it.

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“We need Dalton to play some games. There’s nothing wrong with Cane … he’s probably not in the best form of his life, but we need Dalton to get out there because what happens next year?

“What’s going to happen at lock? We’ve got Retallick back, so do you play Retallick and Barrett this week?

“What are we doing to say we’re building for the future, because I keep hearing we’re building…”

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Tom 5 hours ago
Will Bristol's daredevil 'Bears-ball' deliver the trophy they crave?

Also a Bristol fan and echo your sentiments.


I love watching Bristol but their approach will only get them so far I think. Exeter played like this when they first got promoted to the prem and had intermittent success, it wasn't until they wised up and played a more balanced game that they became a consistently top side.


I really want Bristol to continue playing this brand of rugby and I don't mind them running it from under their posts but I don't think they need to do it every single time. They need to be just a little bit more selective about when and where on the pitch they play. Every game they put themselves under so much needless pressure by turning the ball over under their posts trying to do kamikaze moves when it's not required. By all means run it from your goal line if there is a chance for a counter attack, we all want to see Bristol running in 100m tries from under their posts but I think until they learn when to do it and when to be pragmatic, they are unlikely to win the premiership.


Defense has been a real positive from Bristol, they've shown a lot of improvement there... And I will say that I think this kamikaze strategy they employ is a very good one for a struggling side and could be employed by Newcastle. It's seems to have turned around Gloucester's fortunes. The big advantage is even if you don't have the biggest and best players, what you have is cohesion. This is why Scotland keep battering England. England have better individuals but they look muddled as a team, trying to play a mixed strategy under coaches who lack charisma, the team has no identity. Scotland come out and give it full throttle from 1-15 even if they struggle against the top sides, sides like England and Wales who lack that identity drown under the relentless will and synergy of the Scots. If Newcastle did the same they could really surprise some people, I know the weather is bad up there but it hasn't bothered the Scots. Bristol can learn from Scotland too, Pat is on to something when he says the following but Scotland don't play test matches like headless chickens. They still play with the same level of clarity and ambition Bristol do but they are much better at picking their moments. They needed to go back to this mad game to get their cohesion back after a couple of seasons struggling but I hope they get a bit wiser from matches like Leinster and La Rochelle.


“If there’s clarity on what you’re trying to do as a team you can win anything.”

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