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Mike Cron on why he joined the Wallabies and the 'big gap'

Scrum coach Mike Cron reviews vision with Atu Moli and Angus Ta’avao of the All Blacks during a New Zealand All Blacks Training Session at Kashiwa-no-ha Park Stadium on September 13, 2019 in Kashiwa, Japan. (Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

After several months of pursuit from Joe Schmidt, scrum guru Mike Cron was convinced to lend a helping hand to the Wallabies after decades of service to New Zealand Rugby.

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The legendary coach has over 200 Tests of experience with the All Blacks from 2004 to 2019 spanning four Rugby World Cups, with two title wins in 2011 and 2015. Linking up with Wayne Smith in 2022, Cron added another World Cup title with the Black Ferns.

Cron admitted he “never thought” he would coach Australia but in the age of professionalism it’s all about relationships.

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After a long history of rubbing shoulders with Joe Schmidt from back at the Blues and Bay of Plenty, the pair have formed a strong friendship.

“I never thought it would happen, my dad would roll in his grave I think,” Cron told Newstalk ZB’s Sportstalk about his decision.

“But in the modern era we have a lot of close relationships in coaching and Joe rang and said I really need a hand, just til the end of the British & Irish Lions series next year. It’s a 16-month gig.

“At the moment we’ve got two ex-All Blacks coaches, one is in Scotland and one is in England, Joe over here, it’s just a sign of professional sport I think.”

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Aside from the desire to help out Schmidt personally, the “hell of a challenge” was a motivating factor to lift the Wallabies from 10th in the global standings much higher up the rung.

Cron and Schmidt hoped to be able to hand over the Wallabies after the Lions series in a better place and use their knowledge to improve local coaches.

“The goal really is to get them ready for the British & Lions tour. If there is talent unsighted, hopefully we can find it, and if there is talent there already, hopefully we can make them better.”

The Queensland Reds and ACT Brumbies have started strong this year in Super Rugby Pacific, bringing hope to Australian rugby after the 2023 Rugby World Cup campaign.

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The Waratahs knocked off the Crusaders early in the season but have since struggled to make clutch plays in winnable games, while the Melbourne Rebels are sitting 6th of the ladder.

Whilst it was a positive sign, Cron warned against using Super Rugby Pacific as a yardstick for how the Wallabies would perform against Wales and Georgia in July when they resume internationals.

“They seem to be a bit more competitive this year, the Super Rugby teams,” Cron said.

“What people have got to understand though, is the gap between international and Super Rugby is quite big now, now we don’t have South Africa and the Jaguares in the competition.

“The All Blacks showed that the last couple of years taking the first few Tests getting up to the speed of international rugby.

“A few years ago I think the gap was smaller. Whatever you see at Super, it’s a whole new ball-game at international hence why they needed some international coaches to come in and manoeuvre.

“Wayne Smith and I took on the Black Ferns, and I thought that was a hell of a challenge, it was, this one is even bigger.”

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'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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