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Munster get URC title defence underway against the Sharks

Munster players celebrate with the trophy after they won the United Rugby Championship final match between the Stormers and Munster at the Cape Town stadium in Cape Town on May 27, 2023. (Photo by Rodger Bosch / AFP) (Photo by RODGER BOSCH/AFP via Getty Images)

Munster are set to get their United Rugby Championship title defence underway against the Cell C Sharks at Thomond Park on Saturday October 21.

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The new URC season will start earlier that day as Zebre host Ulster, with Munster rounding off the opening day’s action in the evening before two more matches the following day.

There is only one derby in the opening weekend, an all South African affair which sees the Emirates Lions host the DHL Stormers in Johannesburg on the Saturday.

Fans will have to wait until round five for a repeat of last year’s final, as Munster host the Stormers at Thomond Park on November 18. The challenges then come thick and fast for the champions, with a trip to rivals and last season’s table toppers Leinster the following Saturday at the Aviva Stadium.

URC CEO Martin Anayi said: “The fixture list is the central pillar to the operation of our league and teams and providing certainty to fans, clubs and broadcasters earlier than ever will have a positive impact. Providing a set of fixtures that aims to balance kick-off times which encourage attendance and deliver big broadcast while factoring in the travel necessary to compete in the URC is a monumental task that cannot be underestimated.

“Each year we feel we are learning more and more about how to refine and improve our process and the final fixture list itself and I must express great gratitude to our broadcast partners who have supported so many requests from the league and our clubs. To deliver this fixture list 102 days ahead of kick-off is unprecedented for our league and gives us another target to beat again next year.”

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2023/24 BKT United Rugby Championship Fixtures

R1 – Saturday, October 21
Zebre Parma v Ulster 13.00 IRE & UK / 14.00 ITA & SA | ITA, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Connacht v Ospreys | 15.00 IRE & UK / 16.00 ITA & SA | TG4, S4C, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Emirates Lions v DHL Stormers | 15.05 IRE & UK / 16.05 ITA & SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Dragons RFC v Edinburgh | 15.05 IRE & UK / 16.05 ITA & SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Cardiff Rugby v Benetton | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA & SA | S4C, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Munster v Cell C Sharks | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA & SA | TG4, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Sunday, October 22
Vodacom Bulls v Scarlets | 14.00 IRE & UK / 15.00 ITA & SA | SuperSport, BBC Wales, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Glasgow Warriors v Leinster | 16.00 IRE & UK / 17.00 ITA & SA | Viaplay, RTÉ, SuperSport, Premier Sports

R2 – Saturday, October 28
Ospreys v Zebre Parma | 13.00 IRE & UK / 14.00 ITA & SA | BBC Wales, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Connacht v Glasgow Warriors | 15.00 IRE & UK / 16.00 ITA & SA | TG4, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
DHL Stormers v Scarlets | 15.00 IRE & UK / 16.00 ITA & SA | SuperSport, S4C, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Leinster v Cell C Sharks | 16.55 IRE & UK / 17.55 ITA & SA | RTÉ, SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Edinburgh v Emirates Lions | 17.00 IRE & UK / 18.00 ITA & SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

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Sunday, October 29
Benetton v Munster | 14.00 IRE & UK / 15.00 ITA & SA | ITA, RTÉ, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Dragons RFC v Cardiff Rugby | 14.30 IRE & UK / 15.30 ITA & SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Ulster v Vodacom Bulls | 17.00 IRE & UK / 18.00 ITA & SA | BBC NI, TG4, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

R3 – Friday, November 3
Glasgow Warriors v DHL Stormers | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Ospreys v Cell C Sharks | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | BBC Wales, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Saturday, November 4
Zebre Parma v Vodacom Bulls | 13.00 IRE & UK / 14.00 ITA / 15.00 SA | ITA, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Leinster v Edinburgh | 15.05 IRE & UK / 16.05 ITA / 17.05 SA | RTÉ, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Scarlets v Cardiff Rugby | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA / 19.15 SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Munster v Dragons RFC | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA / 19.15 SA | RTÉ, S4C, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Connacht v Ulster | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | TG4, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Sunday, November 5
Benetton v Emirates Lions | 13.30 IRE & UK / 14.30 ITA / 15.30 SA | ITA, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

R4 – Friday, November 10
Zebre Parma v Cell C Sharks | 17.30 IRE & UK / 18.30 ITA / 19.30 SA | ITA, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Cardiff Rugby v Vodacom Bulls | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | BBC Wales, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Ulster v Munster | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | BBC NI, RTÉ, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Saturday, November 11
Benetton v DHL Stormers | 15.00 IRE & UK / 16.00 ITA / 17.00 SA | ITA, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Ospreys v Glasgow Warriors | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA / 19.15 SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Scarlets v Emirates Lions | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA / 19.15 SA | S4C, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Edinburgh v Connacht | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | Viaplay, TG4, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Sunday, November 12
Dragons RFC v Leinster | 13.15 IRE & UK / 14.15 ITA / 15.15 SA | S4C, RTÉ, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

R5 – Friday, November 17
Edinburgh v Vodacom Bulls | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Ulster v Emirates Lions | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | BBC NI, TG4, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Zebre Parma v Cardiff Rugby | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | ITA, BBC Wales, Viaplay Xtra, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Saturday, November 18
Cell C Sharks v Connacht | 15.00 IRE & UK / 16.00 ITA / 17.00 SA | SuperSport, RTÉ, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Dragons RFC v Ospreys | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA / 19.15 SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Munster v DHL Stormers | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA / 19.15 SA | TG4, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Leinster v Scarlets | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | TG4, S4C, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Glasgow Warriors v Benetton | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

R6 – Friday, November 24
Cardiff Rugby v DHL Stormers | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | BBC Wales, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Edinburgh v Benetton | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Saturday, November 25
Emirates Lions v Zebre Parma | 12.55 IRE & UK / 13.55 ITA / 14.55 SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Vodacom Bulls v Connacht | 15.00 IRE & UK / 16.00 ITA / 17.00 SA | SuperSport, RTÉ, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Cell C Sharks v Dragons RFC | 17.05 IRE & UK / 18.05 ITA / 19.05 SA | SuperSport, S4C, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Leinster v Munster | 18.30 IRE & UK / 19.30 ITA / 20.30 SA | TG4, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Glasgow Warriors v Ulster | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Sunday, November 26
Ospreys v Scarlets | 15.00 IRE & UK / 16.00 ITA / 17.00 SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

R7 – Friday, December 1
Munster v Glasgow Warriors | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | TG4, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Saturday, December 2
Vodacom Bulls v Cell C Sharks | 13.00 IRE & UK / 14.00 ITA / 15.00 SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Cardiff Rugby v Scarlets | 15.00 IRE & UK / 16.00 ITA / 17.00 SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Emirates Lions v Dragons RFC | 15.05 IRE & UK / 16.05 ITA / 17.05 SA | SuperSport, BBC Wales, Viaplay, Premier Sports
DHL Stormers v Zebre Parma | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA / 19.15 SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Ulster v Edinburgh | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA / 19.15 SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Connacht v Leinster | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | RTÉ, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Benetton v Ospreys | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | ITA, S4C, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

R8 – Friday, December 22
Glasgow Warriors v Edinburgh | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Ulster v Connacht | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | BBC NI, TG4, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Saturday, December 23
Zebre Parma v Benetton | 13.00 IRE & UK / 14.00 ITA / 15.00 SA | ITA, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
DHL Stormers v Vodacom Bulls | 17.00 IRE & UK / 18.00 ITA / 19.00 SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports

Tuesday, December 26
Cardiff Rugby v Dragons RFC | 15.00 IRE & UK / 16.00 ITA / 17.00 SA | BBC Wales, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Scarlets v Ospreys | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA / 19.15 SA | S4C, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Munster v Leinster | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | RTÉ, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Saturday, January 6
Cell C Sharks v Emirates Lions | 15.00 IRE & UK / 16.00 ITA / 17.00 SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports

R9 – Saturday, December 30
Benetton v Zebre Parma | 13.30 IRE & UK / 14.30 ITA / 15.30 SA | ITA, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Edinburgh v Glasgow Warriors | 15.00 IRE & UK / 16.00 ITA / 17.00 SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
DHL Stormers v Cell C Sharks | 17.00 IRE & UK / 18.00 ITA / 19.00 SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports

Monday, January 1
Ospreys v Cardiff Rugby | 15.00 IRE & UK / 16.00 ITA / 17.00 SA | BBC Wales, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Dragons RFC v Scarlets | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA / 19.15 SA | S4C, Viaplay SuperSport, Premier Sports
Leinster v Ulster | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA / 19.15 SA | RTÉ, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Connacht v Munster | TBC | TG4, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Saturday, January 27
Vodacom Bulls v Emirates Lions | 15.00 IRE & UK / 16.00 ITA / 17.00 SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports

R10 – Friday, February 16
Scarlets v Munster | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | BBC Wales, TG4, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Zebre Parma v Edinburgh | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | ITA, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Saturday, February 17
Emirates Lions v Vodacom Bulls | 13.00 IRE & UK / 14.00 ITA / 15.00 SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Leinster v Benetton | 15.00 IRE & UK / 16.00 ITA / 17.00 SA | RTÉ, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Cell C Sharks v DHL Stormers | 15.05 IRE & UK / 16.05 ITA / 17.05 SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Cardiff Rugby v Connacht | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA / 19.15 SA | S4C, RTÉ, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Glasgow Warriors v Dragons RFC | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | Viaplay, S4C, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Sunday, February 18
Ospreys v Ulster | 15.00 IRE & UK / 16.00 ITA / 17.00 SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

R11 – Friday, March 1
Edinburgh v Ospreys | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | Viaplay, BBC Wales, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Munster v Zebre Parma | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | TG4, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sport

Saturday, March 2
Emirates Lions v Cell C Sharks | 13.00 IRE & UK / 14.00 ITA / 15.00 SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Benetton v Glasgow Warriors | 15.00 IRE & UK / 16.00 ITA / 17.00 SA | ITA, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Vodacom Bulls v DHL Stormers | 15.05 IRE & UK / 16.05 ITA / 17.05 SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Connacht v Scarlets | 17.05 IRE & UK / 18.05 ITA / 19.05 SA | TG4, S4C, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Cardiff Rugby v Leinster | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | S4C, RTÉ, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Ulster v Dragons RFC | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

R12 – Friday, March 22
Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Rugby | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Ospreys v Munster | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | BBC Wales, TG4, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Saturday, March 23
Cell C Sharks v Ulster | 13.00 IRE & UK / 14.00 ITA / 15.00 SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Scarlets v Benetton | 15.00 IRE & UK / 16.00 ITA / 17.00 SA | S4C, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
DHL Stormers v Edinburgh | 15.05 IRE & UK / 16.05 ITA / 17.05 SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Connacht v Emirates Lions | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA / 19.15 SA | RTÉ, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Zebre Parma v Leinster | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | ITA, RTÉ, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Dragons RFC v Vodacom Bulls 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | S4C, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

R13 – Friday, March 29
Dragons RFC v Zebre Parma | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | BBC Wales, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Leinster v Vodacom Bulls | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | TG4, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Saturday, March 30
Benetton v Connacht | 13.00 IRE & UK / 14.00 ITA / 15.00 SA | ITA, TG4, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Cell C Sharks v Edinburgh | 13.00 IRE & UK / 14.00 ITA / 15.00 SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Ospreys v Emirates Lions | 15.05 IRE & UK / 16.05 ITA / 17.05 SA | S4C, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
DHL Stormers v Ulster | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA / 19.15 SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Munster v Cardiff Rugby | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | RTÉ, S4C, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA / 21.35 SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

R14 – Friday, April 19
Ulster v Cardiff Rugby | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA & SA | BBC NI, BBC Wales, TG4, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Glasgow Warriors v Cell C Sharks | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA & SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Saturday, April 20
Emirates Lions v Leinster | 14.00 IRE & UK / 15.00 ITA & SA | SuperSport, RTÉ, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Benetton v Dragons RFC | 14.00 IRE & UK / 15.00 ITA & SA | ITA, S4C, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Vodacom Bulls v Munster | 16.05 IRE & UK / 17.05 ITA & SA | SuperSport, RTÉ, Viaplay, Premier Sports
DHL Stormers v Ospreys | 18.15 IRE & UK / 19.15 ITA & SA | SuperSport, S4C, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Connacht v Zebre Parma | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA & SA | TG4, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Edinburgh v Scarlets | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA & SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

R15 – Friday, April 26
Scarlets v Cell C Sharks | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA & SA | BBC Wales, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Ulster v Benetton | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA & SA | BBC NI, RTÉ, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Saturday, April 27
Zebre Parma v Glasgow Warriors | 13.00 IRE & UK / 14.00 ITA & SA | ITA, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Vodacom Bulls v Ospreys | 14.00 IRE & UK / 15.00 ITA & SA | SuperSport, S4C, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Cardiff Rugby v Edinburgh | 15.05 IRE & UK / 16.05 ITA & SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Emirates Lions v Munster | 16.00 IRE & UK / 17.00 ITA & SA | SuperSport, TG4, Viaplay, Premier Sports
DHL Stormers v Leinster | 18.05 IRE & UK / 19.05 ITA & SA | SuperSport, TG4, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Dragons RFC v Connacht | 20.00 IRE & UK / 21.00 ITA & SA | S4C, RTÉ, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

R16 – Friday, May 10
Dragons RFC v DHL Stormers | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA & SA | BBC Wales, Viaplay SuperSport, Premier Sports
Edinburgh v Zebre Parma | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA & SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Saturday, May 11
Vodacom Bulls v Glasgow Warriors | 13.00 IRE & UK / 14.00 ITA & SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Cell C Sharks v Benetton | 15.05 IRE & UK / 16.05 ITA & SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Scarlets v Ulster | 15.05 IRE & UK / 16.05 ITA & SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Emirates Lions v Cardiff Rugby | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA & SA | SuperSport, S4C, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Munster v Connacht | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA & SA | RTÉ, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Leinster v Ospreys | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA & SA | TG4, S4C, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

R17 – Friday, May 17
Zebre Parma v Scarlets | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA & SA | ITA, BBC Wales, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Edinburgh v Munster | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA & SA | Viaplay, TG4, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Saturday, May 18
Vodacom Bulls v Benetton | 13.00 IRE & UK / 14.00 ITA & SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Ospreys v Dragons RFC | 15.00 IRE & UK / 16.00 ITA & SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Emirates Lions v Glasgow Warriors | 15.05 IRE & UK / 16.05 ITA & SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Connacht v DHL Stormers | 17.05 IRE & UK / 18.05 ITA & SA | RTÉ, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Cell C Sharks v Cardiff Rugby | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA & SA | SuperSport, S4C, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Ulster v Leinster | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA & SA | Viaplay, TG4, SuperSport, Premier Sports

R18 – Friday, May 31
Glasgow Warriors v Zebre Parma | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA & SA | Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Leinster v Connacht | 19.35 IRE & UK / 20.35 ITA & SA | RTÉ, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Saturday, June 1
Benetton v Edinburgh | 13.00 IRE & UK / 14.00 ITA & SA | ITA, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
DHL Stormers v Emirates Lions | 13.00 IRE & UK / 14.00 ITA & SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Scarlets v Dragons RFC | 15.00 IRE & UK / 16.00 ITA & SA | BBC Wales, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Cell C Sharks v Vodacom Bulls | 15.05 IRE & UK / 16.05 ITA & SA | SuperSport, Viaplay, Premier Sports
Cardiff Rugby v Ospreys | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA & SA | S4C, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports
Munster v Ulster | 17.15 IRE & UK / 18.15 ITA & SA | TG4, Viaplay, SuperSport, Premier Sports

Quarter Final – Friday, June 7
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Quarter-Finals – Saturday, June 8
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Semi Final – Saturday, June 15
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Grand Final – Saturday, June 22
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JW 3 hours ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

Yep, that's exactly what I want.

Glasgow won the URC and Edinburgh finished 16th, but Scotland won the six nations, Edinburgh would qualify for the Champions Cup under your system.

It's 'or'. If Glasgow won the URC or Scotland won the six nations. If one of those happens I believe it will (or should) be because the league is in a strong place, and that if a Scotland side can do that, there next best club team should be allowed to reach for the same and that would better serve the advancement of the game.


Now, of course picking a two team league like Scotland is the extreme case of your argument, but I'm happy for you to make it. First, Edinbourgh are a good mid table team, so they are deserving, as my concept would have predicted, of the opportunity to show can step up. Second, you can't be making a serious case that Gloucester are better based on beating them, surely. You need to read Nicks latest article on SA for a current perspective on road teams in the EPCR. Christ, you can even follow Gloucester and look at the team they put out the following week to know that those games are meaningless.


More importantly, third. Glasgow are in a league/pool with Italy, So the next team to be given a spot in my technically imperfect concept would be Benneton. To be fair to my idea that's still in it's infancy, I haven't given any thought to those 'two team' leagues/countries yet, and I'm not about to 😋

They would be arguably worse if they didn't win the Challenge Cup.

Incorrect. You aren't obviously familiar with knockout football Finn, it's a 'one off' game. But in any case, that's not your argument. You're trying to suggest they're not better than the fourth ranked team in the Challenge Cup that hasn't already qualified in their own league, so that could be including quarter finalists. I have already given you an example of a team that is the first to get knocked out by the champions not getting a fair ranking to a team that loses to one of the worst of the semi final teams (for example).

Sharks are better

There is just so much wrong with your view here. First, the team that you are knocking out for this, are the Stormers, who weren't even in the Challenge Cup. They were the 7th ranked team in the Champions Cup. I've also already said there is good precedent to allow someone outside the league table who was heavily impacted early in the season by injury to get through by winning Challenge Cup. You've also lost the argument that Sharks qualify as the third (their two best are in my league qualification system) South African team (because a SAn team won the CC, it just happened to be them) in my system. I'm doubt that's the last of reasons to be found either.


Your system doesn't account for performance or changes in their domestic leagues models, and rely's heavily on an imperfect and less effective 'winner takes all' model.

Giving more incentives to do well in the Challenge Cup will make people take it more seriously. My system does that and yours doesn't.

No your systems doesn't. Not all the time/circumstances. You literally just quoted me describing how they aren't going to care about Challenge Cup if they are already qualifying through league performance. They are also not going to hinder their chance at high seed in the league and knockout matches, for the pointless prestige of the Challenge Cup.


My idea fixes this by the suggesting that say a South African or Irish side would actually still have some desire to win one of their own sides a qualification spot if they win the Challenge Cup though. I'll admit, its not the strongest incentive, but it is better than your nothing. I repeat though, if your not balance entries, or just my assignment, then obviously winning the Challenge Cup should get you through, but your idea of 4th place getting in a 20 team EPCR? Cant you see the difference lol


Not even going to bother finishing that last paragraph. 8 of 10 is not an equal share.

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