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Nienaber's 10-word answer when quizzed post-game on Erasmus

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Rassie Erasmus was banned from attending Saturday’s match at Twickenham but the Springboks director of rugby still cast a shadow on proceedings, be it at the post-game media briefing, the cancelled half-time Wayne Barnes event, or tweeting earlier in the day about his supposedly positive dialogue with World Rugby.

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First things first. Jacques Nienaber thought he was all done when a final question in the English part of the head coach’s after-match conference just had to be about you know who. “Did Rassie have any input during the 80 minutes, was there any communication?”

A ten-word answer was all Nienaber would give before proceedings moved onto Afrikaans. “No, we’re not allowed to talk to him here, unfortunately,” he said about his boss, who would have likely watched the match back at South Africa’s Lensbury hotel base less the three miles away by road.

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That was the final mention of Erasmus on a busy headline-making day for the supposedly exiled DoR that began with SA Rugby releasing a media statement reporting on his Thursday meeting with World Rugby CEO Alan Gilpin and Phil Davies, the director of rugby.

They are due to convene again soon judging by the messages Erasmus then posted to Twitter, his first comments on the social media site since a tweet the previous week appealing to South African fans shortly before he was busted with his two-day match day ban.

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“Thank you WR and let’s move on,” he wrote, except the legacy of his sarcastic tweeting about referees had an unfortunate sequel at Twickenham later that afternoon. The match programme had stated that the RFU were set to honour Barnes for becoming a centurion Test referee by introducing him to the crowd at half-time.

That plan, though, was binned for fear there could be a negative reaction from Springboks supporters given that Barnes, who was going to be at Twickenham with his family, had been in charge for South Africa’s loss in Marseille to France which set Erasmus off on Twitter.

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Michael Röbbins (academic and writer extraordinair 963 days ago

Legit question: can anyone explain why Ronan O’Gara is allowed at match day (real near the coaching box although under a 10 week ban) and Rassie isn’t allowed to even speak to his people when they’re at the stadium? For those who don’t actually watch club rugby, O’Gara was at La Rochelle’s 53-7 atomizing of Castres (more like castrated) yesterday.

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Flankly 963 days ago

Excluding Rassie from matchdays no doubt reduces the capacity for good in-game adjustments. But I expect it also increases leadership skills across the rest of the squad.

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Jfp123 26 minutes ago
France push All Blacks to 80th minute in narrow Dunedin defeat

So, you think top rugby players’ wages ought to be kept artificially low, when in fact the forces of “demand and supply” mean that many can and indeed are commanding wages higher than you approve of, and even though players regularly get injured, and those injuries can be serious enough to cut short careers and even threaten lives, e.g. Steven Kitshoff.

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As far as I can make out your objections amount to

1) they’ve sent a B team, which is not what we do and I don’t like it. Is there more to it than that? You haven’t replied to the points I made previously about sell out Tests and high ticket prices, so I take it reduced earnings are no longer part of your argument. Possibly you’re disappointed at not seeing Dupont et al., but a lot of New Zealanders think he is over rated anyway.


2) The Top 14 is paying players too much, leading to wage inflation around the world which is bad for the sport.

Firstly, young athletes have a range of sports to choose from, so rugby holding out the prospect of a lucrative, glamorous career helps attract talent.

Above all, market forces mean the French clubs earn a lot of money, and spend a large part of that money on relatively high wages, within a framework set by the league to maintain the health of the league. This framework includes the salary cap and Jiff rules which in effect limit the number of foreign stars the clubs employ and encourage the development of young talent, so there is a limit on Top14 demand. The Toulon of the 2010s is a thing of the past.


So yes, the French clubs cream off some top players - they are competitive sports teams, what do expect them to do with their money? - but there’s still a there’s a plentiful supply of great rugby players and coaches without French contracts. The troubles in England and Wales were down to mismanagement of those national bodies, and clubs themselves, not the French


So if you don’t want to let market forces determine wage levels, and you do want to prevent the French clubs from spending so much of their large incomes on players, how on earth do you want to set player wages?


Is the problem that NZ can’t pay so much as the Top 14 and you fear the best players will be lured away and/or you want NZ franchises to compete for leading international talent? Are you asking for NZ wage scales to be adopted as the maximum allowed, to achieve this? But in that case why not take Uruguay, or Spain, or Tonga or Samoa as the standard, so Samoa, a highly talented rugby nation, can keep Samoan players in Samoa, not see them leave for higher wages in NZ and elsewhere.

Rugby is played in lots of countries, with hugely varying levels of financial backing etc. Obviously, it’s more difficult for some than others, but aside for a limited amount of help from world rugby, it’s up to each one to make their sums add up, and make the most of the particular advantages their nation/club/franchise has. SA are not the richest, but are still highly successful, and I don’t hear them complaining about Top14 wages.


Many, particularly second tier, nations benefit from the Top14, and anyone genuinely concerned about the whole community of world rugby should welcome that. England and NZ have laid down rules so they can’t make the most of the French competition, which is up to them. But unlike some NZ fans and pundits, the English aren’t generally blaming their own woes on the French, rather they want reform of the English structure, and some are calling for lessons to learned from their neighbours across the channel. If NZ fans aren’t satisfied, I suggest they call for internal reform, not try to make the French scapegoats.


In my opinion, a breach of standards would be to include on your team players who beat up women, not to regularly send a B team on the summer tours for reasons of player welfare, which in all the years you’ve been doing this only some of the pundits and fans of a single country have made a stink about.


[my comments here are, of course, not aimed at all NZ fans and pundits]

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