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Nigel Owens names the ex-Wales player he reckons could be a referee

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Legendary referee Nigel Owens has named the recently retired Wales international that he reckons can stay involved in rugby – as a referee. Alun Wyn Jones, Justin Tipuric and Rhys Webb were all selected by Warren Gatland on May 1 in the 54-strong squad to prepare for the upcoming Rugby World Cup in France, but all three have since retired from international rugby rather than commit to the demands of a campaign that starts in Bordeaux against Fiji on September 10.

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It was November 2020 when Owens made his own Test rugby departure, exciting at the top in the Autumn Nations Series with 100 appearances to his name, and he used his latest walesonline.co.uk to pay tribute to all three departing Wales players.

“I’m sure they would have wanted to bow out as the fine players that they have been for years and not risk being remembered for the wrong reasons by going on for too long. It’s a mistake far too many make, in both playing and refereeing,” reckoned Owens.

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Going through the merits of the now former Test-playing Ospreys trio, the retired referee described Jones as “one of if not the greatest player to wear a Wales jersey”. However, he also referenced what the lock was like as a player to referee, recalling the warning he once had to issue in Ireland.

“There were a few times I had to remind him who the referee was for sure. I remember once, out in Munster for one of the Pro14 knockout games, I had to pull him aside and tell him: ‘Look Al, if you carry on like this, you’ll be sitting on the side for 10 minutes’. But he listened to me, said sorry and back he went with no fuss.”

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Tipuric, though, is the operator that Owens suggests could become a referee whenever he finishes up at the Ospreys. “Justin was another one who – and I mean this in a complimentary way – was very difficult to referee. But that is only because he was so good. One of those out-and-out opensides, he would always get in there over the ball, jackling for it.

“When you were in charge of a match that he was playing in, you knew you would have to be on the top of your game. He would always get in there amongst it, and you had to be sure you were making the right calls.

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“He also made his feelings known about decisions that were made. I remember pulling him and Dan Biggar over during one game and telling them both that when they did finish playing, they should take up refereeing as they were already doing a pretty good job of giving it a go!”

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JW 2 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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