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No.1 vs No.2: Will New Zealand suffer from lack of game time?

Lydia Thompson of England attempts to stop Portia Woodman of New Zealand during the Women's Rugby World Cup 2017 Final (Photo by Charles McQuillan - World Rugby via Getty Images/World Rugby via Getty Images)

For the first time in over two years, the number one side in the world will meet the number two. The World Cup runners up will meet the World Cup champions. It’s a battle of northern hemisphere versus southern hemisphere and under a year out from the World Cup, it’s a match up rugby fans will be extremely excited to see and a contest the women’s international calendar needs.

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It’s the big one. England v New Zealand, at Sandy Park this Sunday.

The Red Roses Autumn International series sees them take on the top six teams in the world over four weekends and first off they first face the Black Ferns in back-to-back matches, followed by Canada (3rd) and the USA (6th).

England have had the luxury of international Test competition in the albeit truncated Six Nations earlier this year and even in covid-ravaged 2020, whereas the Black Ferns haven’t played a Test in over two years since they won the Super Series in San Diego back in the summer of 2019. (That their male counterparts the All Blacks have played 17 Tests since the 2019 World Cup speaks volumes of the priorities of New Zealand Rugby).

In their last meeting in that competition, England slipped to their seventh defeat in eight against the formidable world champions, and this time on home soil, will be looking to make the most of fans in seats and send a warning signal of what people can expect to see from them at next year’s postponed World Cup.

Lydia Thompson, who in the 2017 World Cup final against New Zealand, scored one of the tournament’s best tries knows only too well the threats the Kiwis bring and despite England’s opposition not having played together in 27 months, the winger is still very wary of what they bring to the field.

“We’ve been really lucky to get our international game going (during Covid) and to have some good ruby behind us,” said the 47-times capped Red Rose.

“But we will be keen to challenge ourselves and that’s why playing New Zealand back to back is such a good opportunity for us. We know they are always going to be sharp whether they’ve played recently or not.

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“We know every single person who pulls on the Black Ferns jersey has an incredible skill set and it’s awesome to have this opportunity to see where we stand with them.

“It’s going to be an exploratory game for us. They have a lovely offload, running game and physical game and they have world class players in their back line who have a fantastic kicking and stepping game.

“They bring the whole package and they’ll exploit us if we leave a space or gap, they read the game really well and are intuitive. They’ll be tough.”

England Head Coach Simon Middleton named a 40-player training squad ahead of the Autumns including 11 uncapped players. One of those, who is on the bench on Sunday, is 20-year-old Maud Muir who has been in storming form in the Premier 15s this season for Wasps Women.

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Middleton has openly said the versatile front row has the potential to go to the World Cup and needs the opportunity to prove herself. Could this weekend against the World champions be her chance?

Middleton said: “Does Maud making her debut against New Zealand make me nervous? No. Just look at who’s she’s playing with in the Premier 15s.”

Good point.

The Wasps front row said: “I’m going to take every day and training session as it comes and yes, I want to be in that World Cup squad but first I need to get my first cap and work hard in training and focus on myself.

“All the players in the front row are so easy to talk to especially Sarah Bern who’s been helping me with lineouts and scrums at the minute. It’s competitive and we all thrive off each other. These next four games we’re playing some of the best teams in the world and it’s important for our development.”

With names like Portia Woodman, Kelly Brazier and Stacey Fluhler in the New Zealand squad, only months after winning sevens gold at the Tokyo Olympics, and World Cup winners such as Kendra Cocksedge, the Red Roses will be facing stiff competition in Exeter this weekend, which it has to be said isn’t always the case in the Six Nations since England turned professional.

England have won the last three Six Nations titles with only their games against France providing entertainment for the neutral. The women’s international game needs tight games and with New Zealand boasting an overwhelmingly strong record against the English, this game promises to fulfil this in spades.

What we see on Sunday will be indicative of the standard of rugby we can expect from the world’s two best sides at next year’s World Cup and with the original 2021 tournament postponed, it will provide a welcome stopgap and no doubt some thrilling and competitive rugby before the main event in 12 months’ time.

England Women v New Zealand Women
Sunday 31st Nov, Sandy Park, Exeter
BBC Two: Kick-off 14:30

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JW 6 hours ago
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Have to imagine it was a one off sorta thing were they were there (saying playing against the best private schools) because that is the level they could play at. I think I got carried away and misintrepted what you were saying, or maybe it was just that I thought it was something that should be brought in.


Of course now school is seen as so much more important, and sports as much more important to schooling, that those rural/public gets get these scholarships/free entry to play at private schools.


This might only be relevant in the tradition private rugby schools, so not worth implementing, but the same drain has been seen in NZ to the point where the public schools are not just impacted by the lost of their best talent to private schools, there is a whole flow on effect of losing players to other sports their school can' still compete at the highest levels in, and staff quality etc. So now and of that traditional sort of rivalry is near lost as I understand it.


The idea to force the top level competition into having equal public school participation would be someway to 'force' that neglect into reverse. The problem with such a simple idea is of course that if good rugby talent decides to stay put in order to get easier exposure, they suffer academically on principle. I wonder if a kid who say got selected for a school rep 1st/2nd team before being scouted by a private school, or even just say had two or three years there, could choose to rep their old school for some of their rugby still?


Like say a new Cup style comp throughout the season, kid's playing for the private school in their own local/private school grade comp or whatever, but when its Cup games they switch back? Better represent, areas, get more 2nd players switching back for top level 1st comp at their old school etc? Just even in order to have cool stories where Ella or Barrett brothers all switch back to show their old school is actually the best of the best?

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