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'Not to the same standard that we've got': Where the All Blacks are disadvantaged against Boks
By Kim Ekin
South African rugby pundits have questioned the strength of the All Blacks bench after another second half fade in Mendoza which saw the home side win the second half.
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Whilst the All Blacks did not collapse defensively, after being up 31-0 at the break, they lost the second stanza 12-10 as Argentina scored a late try after the buzzer.
The Springboks have named a 6-2 bench split stacked with forwards like Malcolm Marx, Duane Vermeulen and Pieter-Steph du Toit which is a clear advantage to South Africa according to rugby scribes Mark Keohane and Zelim Nel.
The second half performance against Argentina by the All Blacks brought back memories of last yearās Twickenham test argued Keohane.
āThey were outstanding for 65 minutes against England at Twickenham and let England back in, they were 25-6 up and ended at 25-all,ā Keohane recalled on SA Rugby Mag.
āThey were scrambling to save that game. You just got that feeling in the second half, Argentina got back into the game.
ā41-12.. is that a thing that they donāt quite have the bench that South Africa has.
āTo go 31-0 up, to be 41-5 up, they didnāt really stick them away.
āIs that the one advantage that weāve got over many teams, is what comes off our bench?ā
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āAbsolutely,ā Zelim Nel answered.
Nel argued that the All Blacks bench āis not up to the same standardā as the Springboks which includes too many world-class players.
With a near fully fit squad, South Africa has been able to bring players to New Zealand early to prepare for the Mt Smart Test after a strong performance in Pretoria over the Wallabies.
āAs weāve just said, our bench is good enough to be a top tier Test nation on its own,ā Nel explained.
āObviously we need 15 players, point Iām trying to make is world-class players come off our bench.
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āI donāt think you can argue that the All Blacks have got a weak bench, but certainly not to the same standard that weāve got.
āIn terms of guys that have played, have experience, are in form and crushers of the gain line.
āWeāve got an abundance of those sorts of players. That definitely makes a difference.ā
At Ellis Park last year the Springboks were hampered by injuries early which saw them lose fullback Damian Willemse and right wing Jesse Kriel in the first 20 minutes.
Compounding problems was a less-than-desired showing by hooker Joseph Dweba which required Malcolm Marx to be subbed into the game early.
As a result, the bench was not able to be used in the final quarter to provide a boost and the All Blacks scored two late tries in the final 10 minutes to come away with the win.
The South Africans obviously don't pay attention the bench is a fully brand new bench samidoni is one of the best hookers in the world tamiti Williams is a monster of a prop
Any one noticed NZ are running three teams with the AB XV squad also active - if you think DMac, RM and BB is depth at ten add SP to the mix and rewatch the game where the Blues destroyed the Lions - SP was amazing and he is hissing with the ABXV as are others ... anyone heard of a guy called Brad Webber, or Q Strange? Check the Allblacks XV... NZRFU has a way deeper talent pool than 33 men and RSA is just one little part of the challenge this year.
Mine is longer and bigger thsn yours. Itās as if 2 kids are comparing their attributes. Nothing new under the sun . No relevant and independant analysis
The SA pack and bench are very strong on paper, but a much worse version of the ABs beat almost this exact Springboks team last year. It will take a super human effort from the ABs. Very wise to play this game at Mt. Smart though to preserve the aura of Eden Park.
They couldnāt play at Eden Park because of the Womanās soccer WC ! As I predicted the ABs bench have some huge players coming in TAMAITI WILLIAMS & TAUKEI'AHO
Keo always amps up some angle on the Boks, especially before big games. The Bomb Squad is not news, and nor is the impressive depth that the coaches have focused on building over the past 18 months.
Is that the big story of this game? It's something to watch, for sure. What I find more interesting is that SA has essentially picked five locks, and if they have an injury or substitution at open side they will have four locks on the field at the same time.
Assuming they additionally replace Wiese with Vermeulen you would have one of the biggest packs imaginable for the last 20m (AVG HT: 196cm/6'5", AVG WT: 118kg/260lb).
Stand by for a forwards battle.
PSDT and Franco Mostert are not locks. They are utility forwards. They have the ability and fitness to play flank despite their size. This is something the boks have really done well in developing over the last 4 years. Utility players are becoming a big part of the Bok formula. In the forwards and the backline. There are currently around 13 utility players in the Bok system. Players who can cover more than one position. This is becoming a real innovation in the game. Along with the 6/2 bombsquad.
We'll talk again on Saturday.
Wow wee. So Sth Africa have more forwards than us, when has that been a recipe for success? It's not 1976 on the veldt and Uncle Pieter refereeing. The media ramp up the hype around these clashes and everyone buys into it.
Can't wait to get to Africa actually and we play them on their hard grounds in the day.
Sth Africa are not the same force away from home.
Go the ABs.
It was a recipe for success at the 2019 RWC. Did you watch it? Forward domination
= defensive and attacking platform.
Also, SA hasnāt lost in NZ since 2018. So not sure about your last comment.
And itās Oom Pieter to you!
I think the the ABs bench will be way stronger in this test, props especially as any kiwi knows SA bring on their 2 at the 50 minute mark and then have to deal with TAMAITI WILLIAMS a beast! TAUKEI'AHO & LAULALA in the second half who the SAās havenāt played against
Rod -you are drunk my friend.
He's sort of right, but he's overstating it. ABs have better depth in 1st five, wing and fullback. But SA have world class bench in the forwards.
The Grunts win games the Girls are nothing without them
I don't read much into anything the commentators / journalists say. Fact is its a test between the ABs and the Boks in NZ. I am totally hyped up over it. To think NZ don't have an advantage at home is pretty ignorant. I miss the SR games against NZ and Aus teams, yeah sure URC is great, but every team at this level brings something to the table.
Way too many Blue's forwards in the squad, Dalton is the only one who puts in the work, they're the reason why Beauden looked so bad this season, pretty much every possession when playing competent opposition was a dilemma, either kick the ball hastily away or get monstered by the defence because you've been getting slow ball and turning over possession in a worse spot.
There's not much we can do about props at this stage, maybe promote the ABs XV boys. Roigard off the bench could provide incredible late game impact, I personally want Coles in the 16 Jersey no matter who put of Taylor or Samisoni starts, he just brings the right impact and his ability to frustrate the opposition could be crucial in the last 30. Josh Lord impressed me last weekend and on the 2021 end of year tour, I could see him being immense off the bench if we're down a Lock or Scott gets used at Blindside.
I feel like we have all the right cards, it's just about playing them right and discarding the Finlay Christies.
Canterbury supporter? Lol
Large dose of salt to be taken when reading this article.
Its hurts when you realize it don't you?ššššš
I actually agree, we get no impact from Ofa and laulala, good to have work ons tho
And with Newell being injured the options are not great
Keohane didn't even play rugby, so I would take it with a palm of salt.
Yet he's saying something NOBODY wants to accept. Every player coming off the bench would be a starter in ALMOST every other XV.
Make sure the AB bench see this before game on Saturday
Mark Keohane (former Bok PR man) is a sensationalist, relying on controversy as clickbait - he plays the media game - poorly.
South Africa's version of Ben Smith