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Perhaps NZR did not learn from Folau after allowing the Haka hijack

TJ Perenara of New Zealand leads the haka during The Rugby Championship match between New Zealand All Blacks and Argentina at Eden Park on August 17, 2024 in Auckland, New Zealand. (Photo by Dave Rowland/Getty Images)

I’m embarrassed to say that I expected something substantive from New Zealand Rugby (NZR) this week.

I presumed, naively as it appears to have turned out, that management of our governing body – or indeed that of the All Blacks themselves – might make it plain that test matches aren’t the stage from which to launch political statements.

The specifics of what barrow TJ Perenara was trying to push on Sunday (NZ time) are of no interest to me. Nor is the fact that he’s got form on the board in this regard or that there’s historical precedent for players taking stands on social issues.

The office, which is what a rugby paddock amounts to for players, isn’t the place for political grandstanding and, as Perenara’s employer, NZR ought to know that.

Regardless of his sentiments or cause and whether NZR supports that or not, Perenara was representing New Zealand. He wasn’t on his own time, but the nation’s.

Yes, I know that sounds a bit corny, but people do feel a sense of ownership where the All Blacks are concerned. They feel the team represents the best of New Zealand and take great pride in the team’s lofty perch on the world stage.

I don’t want to see Perenara rebuked and I don’t imagine many people do. But I would expect his employer to at least say that, while they respect his beliefs, expressing them immediately before a test match wasn’t the right forum.

Because in ostensibly condoning the hijacking of the haka, NZR not only endorses what happened on Sunday, but gives permission to every player to do similar.

Write whatever absurd message you like on your wrist band or boots. Pose with whatever flag, chant whichever incantation floats your boat.

Your need to express your political beliefs trumps whatever corporate values NZR has. It’s more important than the worldview of sponsors and fans. You, the player, must be allowed to give voice to your views.

Right up until those views differ from NZR’s.

You remember Israel Folau, right? No, he wasn’t on the NZR payroll, but we’re all aware of the things he said and the way that worked out for him at Rugby Australia.

Folau expressed the wrong view and woe betide anyone who does that. Never mind the Wallabies teammates who liked his social media post or endorsed his take on Christianity.

I’ve no idea what possessed Folau to write the things he did, although I would point out he wasn’t wearing a Wallabies jumper and about to play a test match. Nevertheless, he quickly became toxic and his reputation has never recovered.

We can only speculate upon what might happen if an All Black did similar. However, I think it feels safe to assume NZR wouldn’t stand idly by in such an instance.

Well, offence is a two-way street and it’s dangerous for sporting bodies to pick and choose which parts of the public they’re happy to affront.

Far safer to make it clear publicly, given the All Blacks are New Zealand’s team, that while NZR encourages players to have a social conscience and to be leaders in the community, it’s better not to do so on national duty.

That’s all. No-one has to be condemned, fined or suspended. We’re all grown ups with the ability to bite our tongues while we’re in the workplace or out in public, because we recognise and accept that no speech is completely free.

There are always consequences for straying outside of the margins.

I thought NZR might’ve known that.

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Easy_Duzz-it 1 hr ago

Folau made the abc community cry foul for sharing his beliefs . But what did he actually do wrong ? . Nothing , that’s why Folau won in court and the Australian rugby union had to pay him 4 million I think it was .

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JW 38 minutes ago
'Let's not sugarcoat it': Former All Black's urgent call to protect eligibility rules

Something being relevant just because someone wants to make it relevant is a bit of a logical fallacy there.

As is earning money if you want to play that argument.

Similarly, I also said that these traditional aspects of rugby need to change

But I didn't really hear why from you? People love to say that South Africa is the only one who doesn't have this rule, but really the English, French, and Irish don't really even need the rule (unless it is working), so how is this attitude stopping the game from growing if NZ and Aus are the only real countries where it's enforced? The rugby world needs a dominant All Black side? I'm not sure I buy that!

Test is the pinnacle of rugby, unlike football where club reigns supreme. This is a culture that won't change.

Club football only reigns supreme by these ideals you have of devaluing the national jersey. FIFA is even more hardline than rugby in regards to international competition, it's there if the players want to make it more important than club, it's just less valued in an individuals mind; ie, your removing of an ideal that one should not sacrifice for their journey. Why wouldn't it change if you alter that?

But there are two points to consider here: 1) can this not create a situation whereby increased depth and rotation for player health and safety allows for more players to get game time?

That sir, is football in a nutshell. With the second, why not just keep each group of players in their own hemisphere and have local competitions in the 6N and RC? FIFA international window.

owever, I do think that you have missed my point. Basically, why should a player be excluded from selection just because they earn money elsewhere? Yes, it's a difficult scenario.

Well the defacto argument is that those players (ones chosen as being the best, even if overseas) don't perform to the required standard. They managed very well and have jet lag/can't train. This is your point where argued that "well if they don't perform, don't select them", this is why the rule is enforced in a nutshell. While NZ is able to retain a core of players, even if not at the ability of others, they will still perform better in a game of rugby.

Why not just let them play overseas, if their jersey is so nailed down?

Frizell and Mo'unga were not nailed down when they left. Perhaps that is the difference in view points? They both signed to go overseas very early because NZR were happy for them to go at the time, I don't even think Frizell had been offered a contract at that point. Their stocks simply went up after they had decided to leave, hence Razor and the contract crew now trying to offer them what might be a more realistic and competitive option to come back. This reason might be the only actual reason to have some sort of leniency. Ethan Roots, Chandler Cunningham -South, Warner Dearns were offered no contract. If they wanted to put their hand up for selection while performing overseas they should be able to do so, with say three seasons to return?

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SK 1 hour ago
18 debutants but Australia's core looking ‘more settled than ever’

Before Schmidt came along I think its fair to say that nobody and I mean nobody had faith in the Australian domestic system and its ability to churn out players of test quality. Faced with Zero player depth, no distinct style of play, very few working combinations, an inexperienced team and a player and brain drain from Aussie rugby I think everyone believed Joe Schmidt was on a hiding to nothing. 12 tests later the Wallabies have a distinct style of play, working combinations across the park, are slowly building that player depth and have significantly enhanced their stock of good test quality players. Its taken alot of learnings but the project has rapidly surged forward in the last 2 months. What an upward trajectory its been. Before the Northern tour began many said 1 win would be enough to consider it a success. Well they have 2 and were in the contest against a determined Scottish team away from home. They never once shrunk and fought till the end. I also think about those 18 debutants you have mentioned. Imagine the benefit for them and for their Super Rugby franchises with them having now been exposed to a strong systems, with them having now been exposed to the learnings that only international rugby can bring. Imagine the confidence they can take back now into Super Rugby and also the knowledge now of what they have to do to reach that next level knowing its not beyond them. For too long during the Jones Era a sense of hopelessness pervaded the entire Australian set up both domestic and International. So many players saw their dreams fade into dust and others saw their futures evaporate while some became so disillusioned they turned to League. Now Schmidt has brought back hope and has given these lads a sense of purpose. Its almost as though rain has come after a long drought. Lets hope these shoots of green grow tall.

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JW 2 hours ago
'Let's not sugarcoat it': Former All Black's urgent call to protect eligibility rules

So South Africa doesn’t have 14 provincial sides?

You mean like New Zealand has 14 provincial sides? As I said, the JRLO is the standard of the (well better) 14 NZ provincial sides. The 14 NZ provincial sides are made up of the best 500 odd players that remain in NZ, minus the All Blacks of course, the Super Rugby sides are the best 200 players including the AB's, and far too tough for Japan.


I assume SA is much the same, with even bigger squads for their four teams, but not as many Springboks amongst them. So if you need it in lamens terms, the JRLO sides are about the level of your Currier Cup provincial sides. I'll make it obvious, you're teams simply wouldn't cut it against the New Zealand Super Rugby sides, hence needing to create more new teams, or just fully switch to using the provincial setup, in a competition with Japan teams.

I do realise how many South African players are abroad (at any level) and it’s a very small percentage of the total number of professional players.

No, you don't. They are very similar numbers to NZ as I understand it, and about that which would make up the number of players in the URC and CC sides.

The bottom line is that NZ doesn’t have close to the player numbers SA has. Which is why they have to keep them in NZ.

I'm glad you at least know the basics! I'd also add that it's not just about numbers, I think its more that South Africa would have a great number of athletically gifted individuals. Rugby in NZ captures a good percentage of theirs, more than SA would, but the huge differences in population result in more SA'n freaks like Jonah/PSDT/Cullen.

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AD 4 hours ago
'Welsh regional rugby has failed conclusively and there is no way back'

Hmm

On face value it's 3, but not if you look at ACT rugby stats.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_union_in_Australia


The 23/24 stats are incomplete, but for 21/2 it was:


Below is the breakdown of registered players in Australia by region:

NSW – 58,940

Qld – 44,266

WA – 12,253

Vic – 12,135

SA – 3,793

ACT – 3,120

NT – 2,966

Tas – 1,598


Hard to justify ACT on any count....except performance 😁

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