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Oghre citing result will pique interest of England exile George

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Wasps’ Gabriel Oghre has seemingly had his hopes of involvement in the autumn internationals with England dashed following the receipt of a three-match ban after he was cited for a dangerous tackle in last Sunday’s Gallagher Premiership win over Northampton in Coventry.   

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Having been involved in the summer training squad, the uncapped 23-year-old hooker was one of eight uncapped players included in the 45-strong chosen for last month’s mini-training camp in London. That was the gathering that Eddie Jones excluded the established Jamie George from, paving the way for Oghre to be included.

However, with the next England squad due to be announced on October 18 for the training camp in Jersey ahead of the November matches versus Tonga, Australia and South Africa, Oghre won’t feature following a suspension that will rule him out of the upcoming Wasps matches versus Exeter, Saracens and Bath.

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While George is finding his way back to form with Saracens, this three-match ban currently takes Oghre through to November 2, but it could be cut by a week if the player applies to World Rugby for a coaching intervention and satisfactorily completes the intervention.

Oghre was cited by Paul Hull following last Sunday’s match after he was yellow-carded for foul play on Alex Mitchell and he accepted the charge when appearing on Tuesday night before a disciplinary panel comprising Gareth Graham (chair) with Olly Kohn and Leon Lloyd.

At the hearing, Oghre claimed he had no intention to make contact with the head of the Northampton player and that it was an unintended consequence of a poorly executed tackle, candidly accepting that he got his positioning and execution wrong. The written judgment stated: “By his plea, the player accepted that the referee’s decision on the field (which was to give the player a yellow card) was incorrect having regard to the implementation of the head contact process.”

The judgment added: “This was a poorly executed, reckless tackle that made direct contact to the head. The panel had no hesitation in concluding that in all the circumstances of this case a mid-range entry point (six weeks) was appropriate. In the circumstances, the panel accepted that the player was entitled to the maximum deduction of 50 per cent by way of mitigation.”

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JW 4 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I had a look at the wiki article again, it's all terribly old data (not that I'd see reason for much change in the case of SA).

Number Of Clubs:

1526

Registered+Unregistered Players:

651146

Number of Referees:

3460

Pre-teen Male Players:

320842

Pre-teen Female Player:

4522

Teen Male Player:

199213

Teen Female Player:

4906

Senior Male Player:

113174

Senior Female Player:

8489

Total Male Player:

633229

Total Female Player:

17917


So looking for something new as were more concerned with adults specifically, so I had a look at their EOY Financial Review.

The total number of clubs remains consistent, with a marginal increase of 1% from 1,161 to 1,167. 8.1.

A comparative analysis of verified data for 2022 and 2023 highlights a marginal decline of 1% in the number of female players, declining from 6,801 to 6,723. Additionally, the total number of players demonstrates an 8% decrease, dropping from 96,172 to 88,828.

So 80k+ adult males (down from 113k), but I'm not really sure when youth are involved with SAn clubs, or if that data is for some reason not being referenced/included. 300k male students however (200k in old wiki data).


https://resources.world.rugby/worldrugby/document/2020/07/28/212ed9cf-cd61-4fa3-b9d4-9f0d5fb61116/P56-57-Participation-Map_v3.pdf has France at 250k registered but https://presse-europe1-fr.translate.goog/exclu-europe-1-le-top-10-des-sports-les-plus-pratiques-en-france-en-2022/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp has them back up at 300k registered.


The French number likely Students + Club, but everyone collects data different I reckon. In that WR pdf for instance a lot of the major nations have a heavily registered setup, were as a nation like England can penetrate into a lot more schools to run camps and include them in the reach of rugby. For instance the SARU release says only 29% of schools are reached by proper rugby programs, where as the 2million English number would be through a much much higer penetration I'd imagine. Which is thanks to schools having the ability to involve themselves in programs more than anything.


In any case, I don't think you need to be concerned with the numbers, whether they are 300 or 88k, there is obviously a big enough following for their pro scenes already to have enough quality players for a 10/12 team competition. They appear ibgger than France but I don't really by the lower English numbers going around.

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