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Pedestrian ruck and three other England versus Fiji talking points

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It’s been quite the week in the south of France, the repeated mantra from the England camp in Aix-en-Provence being how they have moved on and developed as a team from their Summer Nations Series loss seven weeks ago to Fiji at Twickenham.

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There is no argument that improvement has taken place if wins are the sole criteria: a miserly record of just one win in six outings has been transformed into 4Ws on the bounce at the Rugby World Cup.

However, with too many aspects of these English performances still leaving much to be desired, there is no massive pre-game conviction that they are 100 per cent going to eliminate the Fijians and march north on Paris for a semi-final next Saturday against either the hosts France or the defending champions South Africa.

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As brutally demonstrated on the Saturday just gone, with Argentina dumping Wales and New Zealand edging Ireland in a classic, the status of pool winners at this tournament means nothing and essentially England are arriving at Stade Velodrome with a huge target on their back and everything to lose. Here are the RugbyPass talking points ahead of Sunday’s quarter-final:

The uncertain England defence
Defence – or lack of it – was the big takeaway from the August 26 game in London, England conceding three second-half tries and going under on a 22-30 scoreline. That concession brought the leakage under assistant coach Kevin Sinfield to 30 tries in nine matches, on average a try conceded every 24 minutes, but that situation has now changed.

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Just three tries were conceded in their four pool matches, an average of a try every 106 minutes. That sounds marvellous on paper but last weekend’s scrambling in Lille against Samoa was a sharp reminder that this English defence is by no means anywhere near the finished article.

They were a mess in that passage of second-quarter Samoan dominance, conceding two tries and being fortunate not to concede a couple more, and they ultimately needed a last-gasp Danny Care tackle 75 seconds from time to prevent a match-winning try being scored.

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Samoa aren’t an exact replica of Fiji but they are bruisers who slickly move the ball through the hands, so England – who have just a single back (Alex Mitchell) positionally wearing the same number as last weekend – will have their work cut out to stay connected.

Lock Maro Itoje was statistically the biggest culprit in Lille, missing three tackles, but if we wind back to the Fijian warm-up fixture in London, it was out back where the English struggled, scrum-half Mitchell, centre Manu Tuilagi and wing Jonny May all credited with three missed tackles each in the eight-point defeat. Those numbers can’t be repeated.

Borthwick’s penalty can of worms
We liked the classy way Warren Gatland sidestepped the invitation to bag stand-in referee Karl Dickson for the no-sanction decision reached on Saturday in Marseille over the smack to the head his centre Nick Tompkins received with the result still in the melting point.

“It will be interesting to see what happens in terms of the feedback from the panel,” shrugged the Welsh coach at his media briefing in the aftermath of the 17-29 loss. “If he feels that Nick’s dropped his height, he said it wasn’t foul play. I would need to go back and have a look at it, I probably think it’s at least a penalty situation.”

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Contrast that diplomacy at a time of searing disappointment with the can of worms Steve Borthwick dared to open the previous day at his team announcement media briefing. The head coach has characteristically danced a very dull tune at these finals in his media dealings, offering little if any insight into anything that might pique the interest.

However, what he said Friday was a startling reversal of that habit but it also came across as an example of getting your excuses in early. The query was simply whether he received any feedback regarding some of the officiating against Samoa. “Post-game I talked about aspects of the game and would seek clarity and I did, I received clarity,” he said.

Normally, that would be that and the topic would fizzle out. Not on this occasion, the coach continuing with a reference to the “unconscious bias” debate ignited by Samoan coach Seilala Mapusua and then tossing the fireball of the Fijian penalty count into the mix ahead of a quarter-final that will be refereed by Mathieu Raynal.

“I know some statements have been made around tier one, tier two. The situation I have is in the three games Fiji played against England, Australia, Wales in the last few weeks, they have won over 40 penalties, conceded mid-20s (45 to 23 – 10-7 England, 17-9 Wales and 18-7 Australia).

“So from that, you see a team that has a lot of penalties given to them. We have just got to control what we can control in the game and we will do that.”

Basically, it was a very public pre-game shot across the bows of Raynal, putting the official on notice, but it also highlighted the pressure Borthwick must be feeling heading into this quarter-final with an English team that has no certainty about it.

Smith has it all to do after Steward axe
English fans who have been demanding an edge to their blunt attack must be thrilled that Marcus Smith has made the quarter-final starting line-up, but this decision has come at a heavy price for Freddie Steward, arguably the team’s most consistent performer these past two years.

Steward had started 29 of England’s 30 matches from his July 2021 debut through to the Pool D win over Samoa, only sitting out last month’s game against Chile, and it all counted for nothing when it came to Rugby World Cup quarter-final selection.

The Leicester youngster has certainly not been the bluntest England back this tournament – look at how he popped into the line last weekend to take a pass from Joe Marchant on halfway, burst into space, draw a defender and flash a pass to his left to send Tuilagi galloping clear and give the assist to the try-scoring Ollie Chessum.

That was a lovely intervention, but it seems kick chase and defence have cost him. England’s kicking game was off all over the place in Lille and while Steward shouldn’t be faulted for the three-on-one in the lead-up to Samoa’s first try, his positioning was suckered by the crosskick for the second.

Smith has undeniably played well off the bench, but starting at No15 will be a very different ordeal compared to arriving into the fray around the 50-minute mark or later. He will need ball to make his inclusion work and, as seen with Steward, there is no guarantee of this materialising. An intriguing first-half monitor of his involvement awaits.

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This is an England XV with five changes from the starting team of seven weeks ago – Smith, Elliot Daly and Owen Farrell are in the backs for Steward, Max Malins and George Ford, with Jamie George and Tom Curry in the pack in place of Theo Dan and Jack Willis.

Fiji, for their part, have four different starters, Tevita Ikanivere for Sam Matavesi and Levani Botia for Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta in the pack, with Josua Tuisova for Selestino Ravutaumada, and Vilimoni Botitu for Caleb Muntz in the backs.

Botia has been a major talking point in the build-up, with memories of how he tore Saracens asunder at the Heineken Champions Cup breakdown last April in La Rochelle still vibrant in the memory.

The 34-year-old has been a class act for years and while he can get his impacts wrong – look at last Sunday’s head contact in the tackle yellow card versus Portugal, his strength over the ball at the ruck is a technique masterclass.

A pool phase statistical round-up of all eight quarter-finalists was pretty damning of England’s breakdown. “Clear lack of intent to play and to play wide with only 50 per cent of their rucks more than 10 metres away from the previous ruck, which is the lowest of these quarter-finalists,” read the summary.

England’s pedestrian ruck speed was also ranked the second slowest (4.75seconds) of all quarter-finalists, and they had the second-fewest rucks under two seconds (25 per cent) – statistics both only better than Wales. In other words, they badly need their cleaners to finally turn up this afternoon or elimination is a very real prospect.

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Nigel 402 days ago

Bar the All Blacks, it’s very hard to find better loosies than Curry and Earl.

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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