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Payton Spencer on following in his dad's footsteps with Blues

Payton Spencer of the All Blacks Sevens. (Photo by Matt King/Getty Images)

Son of former All Blacks playmaker and New Zealand rugby icon Carlos Spencer, Payton Spencer, is in camp with the Blues preparing for his rookie Super Rugby Pacific campaign.

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The youngster garnered huge interest coming out of an impressive high school career at powerhouse Hamilton Boys, but endured an injury-plagued stint with the All Blacks Sevens to begin his professional rugby journey.

Currently, the 20-year-old is rehabbing a shoulder injury while enjoying his first taste of the environment his dad once led.

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While King Carlos’ game is etched into the minds of many rugby fans around the world, Payton was only born in 2004 when his dad was wrapping up his famous All Blacks career. YouTube has filled in the blanks, so the youngster is well aware of what made the 44-time All Black such a beloved figure.

While hype and hope will inevitably draw comparisons between the two, Payton has an appreciation for his dad’s talent and recognises how unique he was.

“I think we’re different players – he’s crazy. He’s one of a kind. Hopefully, I can get to where he was one day,” he told  Martin Devlin on DSPN.

The youngster also prefers a different jersey to his dad, with the fullback role being where he has found a home in 15s. He says he hasn’t played at 10 yet, “but maybe in the future that could happen.”

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In general, Carlos is letting his son chart his own course.

“He’s pretty quiet, he lets me do my own thing. He doesn’t really have much of a say, he doesn’t really want to be in my ear the whole time. I think he’s just hoping for the best and hoping for the best for me.

“I’m sure he’d want me to get a few games under my belt.”

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Whether or not fans will get to see the young speedster in action this year is unclear, but Spencer is treating the season as a “building” opportunity in a team stacked with outside back talent.

All Black Stephen Perofeta is expected to resume control of the No. 15 jersey this season, with fellow All Blacks Beauden Barrett and Harry Plummer vying for 10.

There are only a couple of All Blacks in camp at the moment, the likes of Sam Darry, who had an injury rule him out of the latter stages of the Autumn Nations Series, and Plummer, who is eager to get his head around nuances in the attacking gameplan as a decision maker.

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The return of the rest of the team will no doubt be a boost but also be an exciting time for the younger members of the squad.

“It’s good, obviously there’s some massive names in the team. But, I feel like it’s more of an opportunity. You have some of the best minds in the game at the moment. It’s just great learnings, I can learn off them and the opportunity’s massive, to touch shoulders with some of the best rugby players in the world.”

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Spencer has been surrounded by legends of the game his entire life, but that hasn’t made his path to professional rugby all that smooth. The public eye found Spencer from an early age, but he says he’s grown through the pressure that came with his surname’s legacy.

“It definitely comes with its ups and downs. I struggled with it quite a bit when I was a lot younger but the older I get, the more I get used to it. I think I’ve found a way just to embrace it in a way, it’s a good thing. I’m proud to have that name on my back and have him as my dad. I feel like it’s a blessing, it’s a good thing.”

The Blues kick off their 2025 campaign with a 2024 final rematch against the Chiefs at Eden Park, and while they carry the defending champs tag, the team are treating the season like the clean slate it is in search of a rare double.

“There’s been a big focus on wanting to go back-to-back, of course. Not just wanting to do it one year. There’s definitely a big push on getting that number-one spot again.

“Obviously I would like to be a part of it, I wasn’t here when the boys got the win last year, so hopefully I could help them and be part of one this year.”

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JWH 53 minutes ago
'Matches between Les Bleus and the All Blacks are rarely for the faint-hearted.'

Do you hear yourself? Do you have any concept of world view? Have you tried looking into why people call Ireland ‘arrogant’? Obviously not.


We started calling you arrogant when you called our captain a ‘shit Richie McCaw’. In New Zealand. On our turf. Don’t think that kind of behaviour really calls for respect, does it.


NZ don’t really talk ourselves up, if anything the rugby does it for us. No kiwi goes in the media and says: ‘We are gonna win the RWC’. However, I have found many instance of IRISH media saying that the Irish should win, without a doubt. THAT is disrespectful.


The All Blacks have played good rugby, even some of the best rugby ever, at many points in history, but I don’t think you could find a single instance of one of those players, or the NZ media, saying that they should whitewash their opponents. Ever.


Now, onto your analysis. Ireland DID choke the QF. They beat the champions, they were ranked first coming into it, a lot of players at the peaks of their powers. Its hard to say that they didn’t choke. Obviously, their preparation was just not as good as NZ, and thats all there really is to it.


If Ireland had repsected that ABs team and that QF more, maybe they would’ve prepared properly for it and won. But they didn’t.


Maybe if Ireland had won their QF last RWC, they wouldn’t have to be in the same pool as SA and Scotland. I mean, its called a draw for a reason. NZ got third last RWC, so of course they should get a reasonable pool, and they were ranked pretty highly too. If you want to talk about easy pools, look no further than Pool 3 with England, Australia, Fiji, and Georgia I think?


Now, obviously you don’t remember how that QF ended, so I’ll go ahead and rectify that. Ireland reclaimed the ball off kickoff and marched for 20ish phases into the opposition half. Savea then won a turnover, but the referee refused to give it, so play went on. Finally, at the NZ 22, after not giving up a single penatly in 25 phases of hard defense, Sam Whitelock, the most capped All Black of all time, wins the game with an incredible steal.


Now, NZ players having a go at Ireland. Do you cry when you get hit after making the first swing? We all know Sexton is a prick on the field, its just the truth. And Ioane never backs down from a clash, so he thought he should humble a player who has never won an international knockout game who thought he was all that. Don’t really see the issue, its poetic justice really.

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