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Phil Davies describes the daunting rebuild needed at Leeds as like going back to his 1980s playing days

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Phil Davies has admitted he is excited by the daunting challenging of picking the Yorkshire Carnegie carcass up off the scrapheap and reviving the club under its old Leeds name in the unglamorous surroundings of National 1. The ex-Welsh prop arrived too late in Yorkshire at the start of the year to prevent their inevitable demotion for the Championship. 

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However, despite the perilous situation the club finds itself it, Davies believes he has the innovation capable of restoring their reputation as a team to be reckoned with, as happened with Richmond who fell out of the Championship last year only to re-emerge as National 1 champions in 2019/20. 

“The exciting thing for me is that I have to challenge the conventional way of thinking of building a rugby team or running a rugby club,” said Davies on a Rugby Journal webinar. “We have got a lot of students. That is one area. They study, play for the university and then come and play for the club as well. 

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“Then we have just got to look at linking in with some partners who provide training and extra skills in order for people to go into the business world, link the club in with commercial partners and get the thing like Richmond’s model in London where people can have jobs and play rugby as well. 

“That is how it is going to be for us for a few years until we can build ourselves back to where the club would like to be really. It’s going to be a model of semi-professional, part-time players working and playing rugby, so it’s going back to our day really (as a player in the 1980s) which will be interesting.”

Davies led Leeds to Powergen Cup glory in his previous stint at the club in the mid-2000s, but he refused to criticise the squad he inherited in January for the embarrassing relegation which the long-suffering strugglers have since suffered. 

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“I knew they were having a tough time because I kept in touch with a lot of people there since I left in 2006/07… the lads were very young, the coaches were young, there were people there with a lot of endeavour and a little bit of a lack of experience, and club support base on and off the field had dwindled quite considerably to what we have left behind a few years ago. 

“It was a tough situation but I can’t say enough about the players, their effort and commitment was amazing, but we just weren’t good enough. We’d make critical errors at crucial times in a game and that cost us dearly in lots of games. 

“We were improving. Things were getting better from a performance aspect but we weren’t able to make a dent in the scoreboard. As the season was going on we would have got a little bit better. Whether we would have won any games is another story, but the endeavour was there. It was a tough situation that the players tried to make the best of. 

“We have got about 25 players at the moment who are interested in being involved in the rebuild. A lot of them are students who are staying in Leeds and who live in the area which is important. We need a group of players that actually live within a half an hour of the training ground, not like last year.

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“We had some players who put amazing commitment in but they were living an hour and a half, two hours away from training which is tough when you are working full-time and you have got to train three times a week like we started doing in the end. 

“We have got a basis of what it is going to look like for us and have got a group of players who are interested in the helping the rebuild, but there are so many unknowns at the moment. All we can do is try and put a car on the start line if you like and then try and drive it in a direction when we know a little more about what the league is going to look like, when we are going to start, what the funding is etc.

“Was it impossible to stay in the Championship? I don’t think anything is impossible but it was very improbable, so that was the mindset… we have just been looking at our plans, speaking to the players, having lots of conversations with the investors and the board to try and ensure we have a plan that can reset the club, rebuild and create momentum in order to try and get back into the Championship with a sustainable club. That is the massive challenge we are looking to undertake at the moment. 

“Personally I have just been accumulating a lot of brownie points with my wife. I cut the lawn for the first time in 35 years apparently and cleaned the windows, so that has gone down quite well, and I have taken a bit of time to reflect really which was the idea after the World Cup, to just have a think about a wonderful experience we had in Africa coaching Namibia the last five years. 

“It was on average 22 weeks a year away, so there was a lot of stuff to be grateful for and to reflect on. That is what I have been up to over the last few weeks.”

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GrahamVF 26 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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