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Picking an England-Wales composite XV ahead of Twickenham showdown

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Newcastle Falcons fullback Mike Brown has let it be known that no Welshman would get into the current England team. It’s a take that will have left many a Welsh fan reeling but it opened a discussion on who would feature in a combined England-Wales side.

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Below RugbyPass tentatively puts forward some suggestions.

1. Wyn Jones
One of the best scrummagers in the game, Wyn Jones packs a lot of punch. He reached the international arena late in his career and has looked at home ever since, earning a Lions call up for his efforts. There is an argument to be made that Ellis Genge is a more physical presence in the front row but Jones’ all-round game is more balanced.

2. Jamie George
Jamie George has not been a nailed-on starter of late for England but showed his class against Italy, commanding driving mauls whilst also scoring tries out wide like a winger. Luke Cowan-Dickie deserves his plaudits, and so does Welsh hooker Ryan Elias, who put in an admirable player of the match performance against Scotland, however, the Saracen is the most versatile of the three.

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3. Kyle Sinckler
Kyle Sinckler has been a perennial England starter for some time now, balancing ferocity in the collision with nimble handling. Tomas Francis comes close to usurping Sinckler, given his set-piece strength, but the Englishman holds firm because of his physicality and superior mobility.

4. Maro Itoje
Maro Itoje is one of the best second rows in the world. Defensively dominant, a leader by example and disruptive in the line-out, Itoje is an international stalwart of the highest calibre. The hulking Will Rowlands brings his own weapons to the ring but he’s outmatched here.

5. Adam Beard
In the absence of Alun Wyn Jones, Adam Beard has stepped up and become a talisman for the Welsh pack. A commanding force in the line-out, Beard disrupted the Scotland set-piece to no end earlier in the month and is a physical ball carrier to boot. Rowlands is a capable sidekick to Beard but is very much the deputy in the pairing.

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6. Sam Simmonds
Sam Simmonds is not a flanker by choice but the speed and physicality which the number eight brings to the game makes his place at the side of the scrum feasible. With an impressive try-scoring record and blistering pace, Simmonds is a backrow forward that offers more than just consistent collisions. The explosive Taine Basham is worth a mention for Wales, but the Exeter man edges this one.

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7. Tom Curry
Tom Curry has an engine that never runs dry. England’s young captain appears all over the pitch both as a tackler and a powerful ball carrier, never dropping his intensity levels. With Josh Navidi and Justin Tipuric both out through injury, Curry is a shoo-in in this combined team.

8. Alex Dombrandt
It has taken a while, but it seems like Alex Dombrandt is finally becoming an England starter. The surprisingly fast No.8 has silky hands and a penchant for scoring which rivals England teammate Simmonds. The Harlequins loose forward squeezes out the teak-tough Ross Moriarty.

9. Tomos Williams
In many ways Tomos Williams is the perfect nine. He kicks well, can steer attacking play decisively and defend effectively. In Round Two, Williams made almost double the number of tackles of any other starting nine. Picking Williams over Ben Youngs, the joint highest capped Englishman ever, was a tough call, but Williams’ controlled performance against Scotland gave him the edge.

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Wales’ Tomos Williams (Photo by Ashley Western/PA Images via Getty Images)
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10. Marcus Smith
This was a hard one. Marcus Smith’s international career has only just started but he already looks to be one England’s key playmakers. Deadly in attack against Scotland and Italy, Smith has become the first English flyhalf to beat six players in a Six Nations match since 2002. Dan Biggar is an imperious game manager but just lacks the unique edge that Smith offers.

11. Max Malins
A very capable player in the backfield, Max Malins is a safe pair of hands with deceptive pace. He glides across the turf, lulling defenders into a false sense of security. British & Irish Lions wing Josh Adams, had a nightmare in Dublin after being forced to play out of position at 13 and missed round two through injury.

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12. Nick Tompkins
Nick Tompkins is like a Swiss army knife. The Saracens centre can do almost anything, offering a strong step and defensive reliability. He is one of the chief marshals in the Welsh defence, raking up a tackle count which supersedes almost everyone. Jonathan Davies may return to the Welsh starting line-up this weekend but his fitness levels are still dubious.

13. Henry Slade
Eddie Jones has tampered a lot with his centre pairing but one man has been a constant through all the iterations – Henry Slade. The Exeter star’s attacking nous and long-range kicking ability has helped him become a key figure in the backline. Joe Marchant is yet to establish himself as a consistent selection for Jones, while Manu Tuilagi’s injury profile and lack of game time rule him out.

14. Louis Rees-Zammit
Welsh speedster Louis Rees-Zammit was a revelation in last year’s Six Nations, scoring tries with ease. In the first two rounds this term, Rees-Zammit has been less prolific but still offers a bit of x-factor which others only dream of.

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15. Liam Williams
There was a moment in round two when Williams caught a ball deep in his 22, calmly drifted right and waited until the onrushing defender was within touching distance before releasing a pass behind his back to Dan Biggar, who cleared. Not many fullbacks are as calm in the face of adversity as Williams. England’s Freddie Steward is excellent but still has a way to go before reaching the pedigree of Williams.

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Oh no, not him again? 2 hours ago
England internationals disagree on final play execution vs All Blacks

Okay, so we blew it big time on Saturday. So rather than repeating what most people have all ready said, what do I want to see from Borthwick going forward?


Let's keep Marcus Smith on the pitch if he's fit and playing well. I was really pleased with his goal kicking. It used to be his weakness. I feel sympathy for George Ford who hadn't kicked all match and then had a kick to win the game. You hear pundits and commentators commend kickers who have come off the bench and pulled that off. Its not easy. If Steve B continues to substitute players with no clear reason then he is going to get criticised.


On paper I thought England would beat NZ if they played to their potential and didn't show NZ too much respect. Okay, the off the ball tackles certainly stopped England scoring tries, but I would have liked to see more smashing over gainlines and less kicking for position. Yes, I also know it's the Springbok endorsed world cup double winning formula but the Kiwi defence isn't the Bok defence, is it. If you have the power to put Smith on the front foot then why muzzle him? I guess what I'm saying is back, yourself. Why give the momentum to a team like NZ? Why feed the beast? Don't give the ball to NZ. Well d'uh.


Our scrum is a long term weakness. If you are going to play Itoje then he needs an ogre next door and a decent front row. Where is our third world class lock? Where are are realible front row bench replacements? The England scrum has been flakey for a while now. It blows hot and cold. Our front five bench is not world class.


On the positive side I love our starting backrow right now. I'd like to see them stick together through to the next world cup.


Anyway, there is always another Saturday.

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CO 2 hours ago
Scott Robertson responds to criticism over All Blacks' handling errors

Robertson is more a manager of coaches than a coach so it comes down to intent of outcomes at a high level. I like his intent, I like the fact his Allblacks are really driving the outcomes however as he's pointed out the high error rates are not test level and their control of the game is driving both wins and losses. England didn't have to play a lot of rugby, they made far fewer mistakes and were extremely unlucky not to win.


In fact the English team were very early in their season and should've been comfortably beaten by an Allblacks team that had played multiple tests together.


Razor has himself recognised that to be the best they'll have to sort out the crisis levels of mistakes that have really increased since the first two tests against England.


Early tackles were a classic example of hyper enthusiasm to not give an inch, that passion that Razor has achieved is going to be formidable once the unforced errors are eliminated.


That's his secret, he's already rebuilt the passion and that's the most important aspect, its inevitable that he'll now eradicate the unforced errors. When that happens a fellow tier one nation is going to get thrashed. I don't think it will be until 2025 though.


The Allblacks will lose both tests against Ireland and France if they play high error rates rugby like they did against England.


To get the unforced errors under control he's going to be needing to handover the number eight role to Sititi and reset expectations of what loose forwards do. Establish a clear distinction with a large, swarthy lineout jumper at six that is a feared runner and dominant tackler and a turnover specialist at seven that is abrasive in contact. He'll then need to build depth behind the three starters and ruthlessly select for that group to be peaking in 2027 in hit Australian conditions on firm, dry grounds.


It's going to help him that Savea is shifting to the worst super rugby franchise where he's going to struggle behind a beaten pack every week.


The under performing loose forward trio is the key driver of the high error rates and unacceptable turn overs due to awol link work. Sititi is looking like he's superman compared to his openside and eight.


At this late stage in the season they shouldn't be operating with just the one outstanding loose forward out of four selected for the English test. That's an abject failure but I think Robertson's sacrificing link quality on purpose to build passion amongst the junior Allblacks as they see the reverential treatment the old warhorses are receiving for their long term hard graft.


It's unfortunately losing test matches and making what should be comfortable wins into nail biters but it's early in the world cup cycle so perhaps it's a sacrifice worth making.


However if this was F1 then Sam Cane would be Riccardo and Ardie would be heading into Perez territory so the loose forwards desperately need revitalisation through a rebuild over the next season to complement the formidable tight five.

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