Podcast: The Short Ball - s03e33 - South Africa should quit SANZAAR to allow pacific game to flourish

With attacking lineouts taken for pens, you’d also need to factor in other elements such as ‘how much time was spent in the oppo 22?’, ‘Did that time result in yellow cards or warnings for the D?’

If you rewatch the game at Twickenham v the ABs, those are very important. Thre pressure built from attacking lineouts milked a series of pens and yellow cards out of the ABs even when they were defending successfully.

But look at the mature pro contact sports in the US and you have guys like Belichick who never played Gridiron beyond high school. Ted and Shag would fall into a similar category and they are the most successful coaches of the pro era.