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'Posolo Tuilagi is another monster' - the Basta Show reaction

Johnnie Beattie joins Mathieu Bastareaud in Toulon to discuss the Six Nations and the latest Tuilagi phenomenon, Posolo.

For his second show, former France powerhouse Mathieu Bastareaud invited former Scotland and Top 14 flanker Johnnie Beattie to the beach in Toulon.

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Beattie, who picked up 38 Test caps between 2006 and 2015, speaks perfect French, having spent most of his career with French clubs Montpellier (2012-2014), Castres (2014-2016) and Aviron Bayonnais (2016-2019).

Suffice to say, he knows French rugby very well and while he doesn’t deny his origins – he will naturally support Scotland when they host France at Murrayfield on Saturday, February 10 – he’s full of insight and goodwill when it comes to French rugby.

He too felt the pain when Les Blues experienced its heaviest ever defeat against Ireland in Marseille in the opening round of the 2024 Six Nations.

“I’m a bit scared for the Scots this weekend,” he told Bastareaud on the latest episode of the French language Basta Show.

“We saw a team (France) at the end of a cycle, with a lot of changes, that lost a lot of the things it usually does without thinking – especially in the lineout – and found itself in a tough spot.

“There are mental and physical after-effects. It leaves its mark.

“There was also the context with Ireland: no change, the big team, the staff that hasn’t changed, the federation that manages the players – so that they are not playing all the time. Here in France, the guys have cranked out, since the World Cup, about fifteen games!

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“It was sad to see them like that. But we know full well with the French team… The guys are very proud. A little flick and they’re going to rebel, they’re going to wake up. I’m a bit scared for the Scots this weekend… ”

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France got off to a bad start

Opponents for many years – Bastareaud and Beattie have never played in the same team – the two players agree on one point: France got off to a bad start from the off.

“It’s true that from the beginning of the game, we felt that it was going to be really, very, very difficult,” says Bastareaud.

“After that, it’s true that there was the red card that put us down to 14 men, which punished us. But for me, at least, I had the feeling that even with 15 men, it’s not certain that we would have won that match.

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“Not easily,” adds Beattie. “But still, you have the means, the players, with the physical and technical ability to win this kind of game.”

The post-France-Ireland match focused at the beginning of the week on two “excuses” (apart from Willemse’s red card): the absence of captain Antoine Dupont and the lack of control of his designated replacement at scrum-half, Maxime Lucu.

For Lucu, it was “mission impossible”

“I think you can put Toto (Antoine Dupont, editor’s note), Maxime Lucu, (Nolann) Le Garrec or (Dimitri) Yachvili on the pitch, you don’t change much in this match. We lose six or seven balls in the lineout, we’re constantly going backwards either in defence or in attack. It’s not Antoine. You can’t say to Antoine ‘unblock the situation’, it’s not possible,” says John Beattie.

“When I see Maxime at the moment, who plays at a very high level for Bordeaux every week, for him it was his chance to be in the starting line-up… But when you give Maxime and Jalibert such [poor] quality ball… The ball they were given, it’s not possible. We’re not on top, a scrum that doesn’t advance, lineouts lost… You’re never going forwards so it’s super hard.

“For him, all the ball is slow, the conditions are terrible… It’s an almost impossible mission. We’ve all had games like that.

“My heart aches for him because I think he’s a competitor with great qualities. I love this guy. I was disappointed for him but also for others like Willemse. The fact that he missed this World Cup with an injury; Now he comes back, he wants to show himself, to bring this physical side that he has, two impacts and that’s it: the team is down to 14 men for 70 minutes.

“The team will bounce back against the Scots with 15 guys, it’s going to be a different situation, a different game.”

The Confirmation of the King

Another point of agreement between the two is what they think of Posolo Tuilagi. The 19-year-old second-row (6 months and 5 days) earned his first international cap through a twist of fate. An injury to Romain Taofifenua which put him on the bench and then Paul Willemse’s red card led to this USAP colossus (1.92 m, 145 kg) entering the fray.

“One person’s misfortune is another man’s fortune,” teases Bastareaud.

“It made me happy because I love this type of player. They’re the players who, as soon as they have the ball, they knock down three or four guys, they move forward… Even if I think he is not yet the finished article – for the France team, for playing internationally – it is only through playing in games like this that we learn. I think we’re seeing the phenomenon of the next few years, that’s for sure.”

His father, who had been an international for Samoa (10 caps between 2002 and 2009) and also a player for USAP (2007-2015), was present in the stands at the Stade Velodrome to see the next generation.

“Posolo comes from a family with Manu who plays for the English, Alesana, Freddie, his dad Henry, who was scary,” Beattie says.

“He’s got the physical qualities. He’s still raw; He is only 19 years old. He’s a diamond in the rough, he’s going to grow, into another monster. And of course we can count on him for the future. It’s a phenomenon, plain and simple.

“But again, we can’t put a lot of pressure on him. That was an experience. He was thrown in at the deep end at the stadium in front of 60,000 people, with no experience. Now he’s going to move forward, he’s going to progress and he’s certainly going to bring something for the years to come.”

You can watch the full Basta Show below, and weekly via the RugbyPass France Youtube channel

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JW 2 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


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It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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