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Jamie Roberts: Gatland has found the answer to longstanding question

Jamie Roberts and Jonathan Davies during the International match between Wales and New Zealand All Blacks at Millennium Stadium on November 22, 2014 in Cardiff, Wales.

Having a legendary player or partnership in a team does not often create too many problems, but one may be that it takes years, and sometimes generations, to find replacements.

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With the bar set so high, fans have an expectation that the players who follow can often fail to live up to despite being good players in their own right.

One such legendary partnership was the combination between Jamie Roberts and Jonathan Davies in the Welsh, and British and Irish Lions midfield, which Wayne Pivac and Warren Gatland have striven to replace.

Now Roberts himself thinks his former coach may well have found the heirs to the 94-cap and 96-cap inside and outside centres.

Looking at Wales’ squad for their Autumn Nations Series campaign, where they face Fiji, Australia and South Africa, Roberts has identified the Scarlets’ Eddie James and Gloucester’s Max Llewellyn as candidates to occupy the Welsh midfield “for a long time”.

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Speaking to RugbyPass recently, the 37-year-old discussed Wales’ midfield options heading into their autumn campaign.

While he is excited about the prospect of James and Llewellyn playing alongside each other in the future, he is not sure their time is now. Rather, he likes the idea of them getting game time for now alongside the experienced duo of Nick Tompkins and Owen Watkin.

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After all, the pair only have two Wales caps between them, with James, 22, earning his against South Africa earlier this year and Llewellyn, 25, being capped in a 2023 World Cup warm-up. Cobbling together such an inexperienced partnership could prove problematic.

While Gatland experimented with Mason Grady at inside centre against Australia in the summer, the same move he made with Roberts over a decade ago, the former Lion is not convinced by the switch, and believes the 117kg back is better suited on the wing.

“I’m hugely excited by the promise of Eddie James and Max Llewellyn,” TNT Sports pundit Roberts told RugbyPass. “They’re two players who’ve got all the ingredients to be proper Test rugby players.

“Potentially not together, but I’d love to see them start a game in November. Max has played quite a lot at 13, Eddie more at 12, but whether it’s the right time to start them together, I’m not quite sure. But finding that partnership for Wales over the next couple of seasons is going to prove absolutely pivotal to the fortunes of this side.

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“If they work well together, why not? They’ve got to start somewhere, but we know we’ve got the experience of Owen [Watkin] and Nick Tompkins to call upon if needed. I think these two lads could be mainstays in the Welsh squad for a long time.

“Around the young centres, whether that’s Warren kind of resigning himself to the fact that playing Mason [Grady] at 12 is not going to happen moving forward. Personally, I think we should be on the wing. We’ve learned over the last period that his best position isn’t 12, I think he’s aware.”

A bigger conundrum for Gatland than solving the midfield this November is working out how to win a Test. Wales are yet to register a Test win in 2024, but Roberts is buoyant and believes his countrymen should target two wins from three over the next month.

“World champion Springboks are going to be a huge ask, but get enough momentum from the first two games, never say never,” Roberts said.

“Where this Wales side is at the minute, Fiji and Australia games, they should be targeting to win. I think they’ve got the ingredients to do it. They’ve got a young group of players who’ve gone through a really steep learning curve over the last 12 months against some very challenging backdrops in Welsh rugby- at club and Test level. But they would have learned a huge amount.

“They have some experience coming back, the likes of Jac Morgan, Tomos Williams were missed in the summer, really, really missed because they are two players that can really transform this side.

“Having Jac Morgan back is huge, he is truly one of our world-class players when he plays to his potential and is fully fit and it’s great to see him showing that early-season form. When you have players like that, they just give their side an extra five, ten per cent and give confidence to other players as well, which is all Wales need to go from turning tight losses into victories.

“I’ve all the reasons to be pretty optimistic about it, we’ve got a great opportunity to get back to winning ways and that’s what the lads are chasing out there.

“They’re chasing that feeling being in the changing room and having been there myself, in Welsh sides that won things and then lost, it’s that feeling of winning again and knowing you’ve put in a performance worthy of winning a Test match and they’ve got a great opportunity to do it. I think there will be a spring in their step off the back of early season form, I think a lot of players are showing some really good form.”

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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