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Rassie Erasmus makes astonishing claim about 2019 Rugby World Cup

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Rassie Erasmus has made a startling claim about the Springboks’ victory at the 2019 Rugby World Cup. The SA director of rugby, who was the national team’s head coach at the finals in Japan, was last month filmed addressing the current squad at its first alignment training camp ahead of the upcoming 2023 finals in France.

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The behind-the-scenes footage is part of the latest episode of Inside the Boks, the documentary series charting the South African national team as it looks to successfully defend its world title. In the latest 24-minute episode, Erasmus was filmed on February 19 at the Cullinan Hotel in Cape Town addressing a raft of domestically based Springboks such as Eben Etzebeth, Bongi Mbonambi and Damian Willemse.

In it, he outlined his outlook for 2023 and astonishingly claimed that the Springbo0ks’ 2019 victory was a bonus as the glory that management had targeted upon taking charge in 2018 was Rugby World Cup 2023.

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Addressing the squad while standing next to a whiteboard that he filled liberally with buzzwords, Erasmus began: “How we are thinking of preparing in 2023 was actually started thinking in 2018. When we were appointed as coaches, we started thinking about 2023. 2019 was a bonus, but 2023 was always our big plan. We were looking at our squad age and when the guys were going to mature, what we have to bring in.

“We want to go to the (2023) World Cup and win. We want to be the first team in history to win it four times. We want to be the first coaches to go back-to-back and have lots of guys with back-to-back. It is not personal challenges we are taking on, it’s a bunch of guys who want to be the best team in history. We have worked in 2022 and 2021 and 2020 but we plan for 2023.”

Later in the segment, Erasmus wrote the words supporters, media and referees on the whiteboard and explained to the Springboks squad why. “You might ask why are you putting them under the dotted line? If we play like we can and we get the right squad together and we coach our arses off and the management/support staff support all of us here the supporters will be there.

“It is our job to make sure they are part of us. They give opinions and tear us apart and do all those other things, but they are there for us. We know that.

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“Our opponents should be those six teams and the team we play in the World Cup. They should be our only opponents, the only people we coach against, fight against, not fight, we can go to war with, beat them, go lift the trophy and drink on the bus. That should be the only thing that should stop us. Not the referee, not the media, not our supporters, especially not the coaches, the management team.

“Don’t let something stupid, don’t let another meeting deflate you. We knew what we did in 2019. We know now in 2023 that we are already 70 per cent, I promise you 70 per cent better organised as a team.

“There are going to be alignment camps and you are going to go home at weekends and most of you should go to the World Cup, so if you can just suck it up and make a really great effort, we rate being a warrior. You have never been part of a team that has evolved so much, that has got the abilities going into this year.

“I’m going to finish with this, we said on the end-of-year tour for those who play golf, you put it on the first fairway, you take your driver and for 2023 you hit your ball in the middle of the fairway and the World Cup lies on the green.

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“What does the middle of the fairway look like? You are fresh and the plan now is we can put every team under pressure, we are a little more open-minded and we know each other (better).”

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isaac 633 days ago

This guy really is a clone of Eddie Jones....someone give him a Vudi

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Duane 633 days ago

Think you boys forgot that Graham Henry coached the 2011 All Blacks and that Hansen/ Smith were assistants. The cross was shouldered by Henry. Erasmus' point here is that he and Nienaber are looking to win back to back WC's as head coaching combos. A bit of a reach because he is now the DoR and not the coach with the title anymore, but we all know who the real brain behind this Bok squad/strategy is.

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lot 633 days ago

Bokkes made history as first World cup winner beaten by a third tier nation in World Cup. Also made history as first Cup winner defeated in pool game. Not first back to back Cup winner. that goes to McCaw/Hansen and the ABs. Bokkes will not make Semi Finals in 23. Beaten at QF either by AB or France. Bokkes had a lucky run in 2019.. Wallabies and England have that chance in 23..

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Tom Vinicombe 633 days ago

"We want to be the first coaches to go back-to-back."

Well, ignoring Steve Hansen and Wayne Smith...

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GrahamVF 10 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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