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LONG READ Razor has an about turn on All Blacks eligibility rules

Razor has an about turn on All Blacks eligibility rules
2 days ago

Late last year, All Blacks coach Scott Robertson was adamant that New Zealand Rugby’s eligibility policy was no longer fit for purpose. It was a point he had made six months before starting the job; a point he made six months into doing the job and it was a point he made as he signed off after his first full season in charge.

He never stated publicly where he felt the policy was lacking – his message was only ever that he asked NZR’s board to retain an open mind – but it’s believed he wanted there to be amendments to the sabbatical clause that is offered to senior players as an incentive to sign a long-term contract to stay in New Zealand.

Sabbaticals are effectively offered to players who have 70 test caps and who sign a long-term contract (three or four years) and it enables them to play somewhere else in the world (typically Japan although Jordie Barrett has gone to Leinster for six months) for one club season and remain eligible for the All Blacks when they come home.

Jordie Barrett
Jordie Barrett has been a crowd draw since taking up his sabbatical with Leinster but will soon return to New Zealand (Photo Shaun Roy/Getty Images)

Robertson was of the belief that the 70 test caps threshold was too prescriptive as there would often be players who probably would have won 70 test caps but for injury and that the system would benefit from being more subjective – that is, giving the All Blacks coach more control in deciding who should be offered a sabbatical.

He also felt that it would make more sense to let players play two consecutive seasons in Japan as part of a long-term commitment to New Zealand – which, using the example of Richie Mo’unga, would have meant he could have played for Toshiba in 2024 and been eligible for the All Blacks, and then returned to Toshiba this year and then transitioned to his long-term NZR contract.

The point of this change was to off-set the changing view in Japan about signing All Blacks for one campaign – they want more commitment than that and if the one-year contracts dry up, it will effectively render the current sabbatical clause redundant.

Razor would love to pick him [Cane] this year and maybe even beyond – partly because he feels the veteran can still play at the right level the team needs, and partly for the leadership qualities he brings in keeping team mates honest.

It’s also believed that he would be in favour of having the right to select a small number of experienced players from offshore clubs.

Having not necessarily been a Sam Cane fan when he came into the role in 2024, Razor quickly came to see the value of the former All Blacks captain.

Cane, who is now 33, signed a three-year deal with Suntory, but Razor would love to pick him this year and maybe even beyond – partly because he feels the veteran can still play at the right level the team needs, and partly for the leadership qualities he brings in keeping team mates honest, driving All Blacks values and mentoring those around him.

If the policy was amended to allow some access to offshore players who have met a threshold of test caps, Razor would likely be in favour. All this seemed a sensible and well-considered means to future-proof the eligibility policy and to give Robertson greater scope of using players throughout a World Cup cycle.

Sam Cane
There a suggestions Scott Robertson maybe open to talking Sam Cane around for one final season in black (Photo Francesco Scaccianoce/Getty Images)

But, somewhat surprisingly, he, alongside NZR chief executive Mark Robinson, appeared on ZB’s Rugby Direct podcast last week, to say he’d had a major rethink and had come to see that the existing policy was in fact doing an excellent job.

“I had a year to look at it and where we stand,” Robertson said.

“The first thing is my intentions with my comments were, was it fit for purpose still? One of my jobs is to make sure our pathways are strong so we can continue the flow of quality professional rugby players.

“I understand how important it is and I’ve probably now got more insight around the flexibility there is in the current regulations. It is fit for purpose. There is flexibility there.”

But this newfound support for a policy that he was critical of just three months ago, is hard to take without a touch of scepticism.

The disunity between Razor and his employer was starting to become embarrassing and clearly, the decision for both to appear on a podcast was a deliberate attempt to showcase how there has been a meeting of minds.

Has Razor really seen the light or has he been told he needs to say he has because NZR was unhappy that the All Blacks coach was publicly undermining the organisation last year?

The answer is likely that both factors are true – that Razor has been told he can have a greater role in privately advocating for specific players to be offered sabbaticals to try to keep them here, and so too has he been asked to toe the party line and be publicly supportive of an issue that creates considerable media and public debate.

The disunity between Razor and his employer was starting to become embarrassing and clearly, the decision for both to appear on a podcast was a deliberate attempt to showcase how there has been a meeting of minds.

That’s all fair enough as it is reasonable for NZR to expect the All Black coach to be publicly aligned with an important policy.

Richie Mo'Unga
There has been a huge amount of debate about recalling Richie Mo’Unga to the All Blacks squad even though he’s been playing in Japan (Photo Toru Hanai/Getty Images)

But this does pose the question of whether a desire to present a united front, is preventing the necessary debate and scrutiny to be placed on an eligibility policy that Razor was right to question as perhaps not being fit for purpose. There are specific positions and issues that highlight how changing the system would benefit the All Blacks immediately.

The example of being able to pick Cane already given is a good illustration of where change would have positive impact without blocking pathways or devaluing domestic rugby.

Cane, even though he is in Japan, is arguable still New Zealand’s best No 7, or second best if Ardie Savea is also considered an openside. The third-ranked openside is probably Peter Lakai, who is 22 and won a few caps last year, just ahead, maybe, of his Hurricanes teammate Du’plessis Kirifi, who is uncapped.

The other contenders feel like they are a long way back. Dalton Papali’I appears to have fallen out of favour. Ethan Blackadder has been ravaged with injury but looks a more natural blindside anyway and there just aren’t many talented No 7s coming through.

The situation at No 10 is similarly precarious in that the top ranked 10 is 34-year-old Beauden Barrett, with the near 30-year-old Damian McKenzie behind him. The issue is not that they are too old now, but that certainly the former and possibly the latter, will finish in New Zealand after the World Cup.

To that end, it seems mad not to be able to keep picking Cane and mostly start him this year, with either Lakai or Kirifi taking game time off the bench and starting against lower ranked opposition – all the while gaining the benefit of being in a squad with a former All Blacks captain.

Cane wouldn’t necessarily merit selection next year, but there is a sense that the All Blacks don’t have an openside capable of bringing the hard edges of Cane to the international arena just yet, and that it would be beneficial for Lakai, or Kirifi, to spend another year slowly being developed.

The situation at No 10 is similarly precarious in that the top ranked 10 is 34-year-old Beauden Barrett, with the near 30-year-old Damian McKenzie behind him. The issue is not that they are too old now, but that certainly the former and possibly the latter, will finish in New Zealand after the World Cup.

Richie Mo’unga, who is currently ineligible because he’s in Japan, may return in 2026 and play in 2027, but he too will almost certainly not be in New Zealand in 2028.

Scott Robertson
Scott Robertson has been speaking on a podcast about New Zealand’s eligibility rules and a change of heart (Photo Sam Barnes/Getty Images)

New Zealanders like to think the system will always push through the next generation, but with Barrett being so critical to the Blues, there is little opportunity for Stephen Perofeta to learn his craft.

And what’s undeniable is that the domestic system needs turnover – it needs for experienced players like Barrett to make way and provide opportunity to develop the next tier.

There would have been some value, and sense then, in letting Barrett stay at Toyota Verblitz, where he played last year, for at least another season, if not two, but keep him All Black eligible.

Perofeta needs opportunity, so he can be one of the candidates ready to compete for the All Blacks No 10 jersey in 2028.

NZR says the eligibility policy is flexible, but is it flexible enough? Has a desire to get the PR right papered over the cracks in the system and left the All Blacks vulnerable?

The prospect of the All Blacks starting 2028 with a No 10 who has no or limited test experience is real and, again, this was a point Razor hinted at all last year – that the Springboks have a genuine advantage in that they can retain their most experienced players no matter where in the world they are playing and it is this which may in fact be the true strength of the fabled bomb squad.

That is to say, that the Boks can call upon the likes of Pieter-Steph du Toit, Handre Pollard and Damian de Allende, while the All Blacks can no longer pick the likes of Brodie Retallick, Sam Cane and Richie Mo’unga – and that’s partly why New Zealand couldn’t match the Boks in the final quarter of games last year, because they lacked similar firepower.

NZR says the eligibility policy is flexible, but is it flexible enough? Has a desire to get the PR right papered over the cracks in the system and left the All Blacks vulnerable?

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JH 1 day ago

Razor hasn’t really had an about turn on eligibility, he was just naive to think the NZR would ever have an open mind about it. This is the archaic group that won’t even consider Kiwi’s playing for non-nz teams in Super Rugby, that tells you what sort of dinosaur thinking they have.


So, he was summoned to the principal’s office, given a smack on the hand, and told to toe the line.

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JW 1 day ago

Yeah I think he is indeed naive enough to correlate “open mind” to “constant change” in all aspects of application. It’s a nice theory you’ve read somewhere Razor, but it doesn’t work like that.

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DJ 1 day ago

To say that Stephen Perofeta should be given time to learn his craft is hilarious. SP has been at the Blues since 2017, been given many opportunities, too inconsistent & never kicked on. SPs time is over. For the Blues maybe an injury free Zarn Sullivan or the young Rico ‘Larkham’ Simpson may be the future & maybe the ABs

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JW 1 day ago

Yes the author must be on roids or something, it’s definitely time for Pero to prove he’s learn’t his craft. If the Blues season becomes toast soon you may indeed see those two towards the end.

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JH 1 day ago

‘Snowball’ Perofeta, because much like Quade Cooper and Lima Sopoaga before him, once SP makes a mistake, his whole game careens out of control.


At 28 he’s hardly the future, and young players are either not being given a proper go, or they’re messed about by NZs obsession of trying to turn every promising 10 into a 15.

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JW 1 day ago

Late last year, All Blacks coach Scott Robertson was adamant that New Zealand Rugby’s eligibility policy was no longer fit for purpose.

Nah, he wasn’t. He was adamant NZR need to keep an open mind about those sorts of things if they want to compete at the top.


The whole time he came across as someone who didn’t really know what he was talking about. It was also very evident again in this interview talking about the goodstuff currently. He’s shown ko inclining that he’s actually had a desire to understand either side (he struggled to articulate the pros in this interview), he merely wants those that do and can, to think about it. Is he really satisfied they’ve done that? I don’t know, he’s still not showing much intelligence around the players at his disposal this year, calling Dmac “a good runner”, so he probably still looks at SA and wants what Rassie’s got.


This was definitely a public display, you shouldn’t even be asking the question. You just need to find out about what.

and there just aren’t many talented No 7s coming through.

Lol, abosolutely no clue!


Sorry Paul but the contents of this article is why overseas based selection is a bad idea. Such a shame.

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GP 2 days ago

The knockers of Richie Mo’unga can say what they like. But it is his intention to return before the next World Cup. That is a great thing. He was badly missed last year. Blaming him for World Cup losses is ridiculous. In 2019 he was badly and constantly undermined by Beauden often getting the ball instead of him at 10. He was one of our best at the 2023 World Cup. He worked wonders for the Crusaders under Razor 2017-23, that is why he wants him back.

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JW 1 day ago

Yep I think the ABs had the WXV’s 10’s back to back 23 and 24. You’re reaching a bit though, he’s only said his intention is to return to a WC, and you seem to be hoping that means the Crusaders and the ABs.


Let him play where he wants to play and where he can be influential.

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Head high tackle 2 days ago

Razor has been told to toe the line. He is using his silly collection of words to talk his way around being embarrassed about being told what to do. Mentioning Cane is just silly as Cane is no more available than Mounga and its Mounga that Razor cant get over. The continued chat around this topic is the gift that keeps on giving. Surely the wrter could have fitted Israel Folau’s name in the article somewhere for more clicks.

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JWH 2 days ago

Yeah I’m pretty sure Razor’s whole plan when he was going to take over from Foster in 2022 was structured around RM at 10. Still shocked we let him off, such a class act of a player and best Super Rugby player of all time. Definitely top 5 All Black 10s of all time too.

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JD Kiwi 2 days ago

Clearly this author is running out of material as he's banging this drum yet again even though his prime witness, who was only ever asking for people to have an open mind, was open enough to change his own mind after talking it through with the Leinster boss.


He's wrong about DMac too, he's signed through to 2029.

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JW 1 day ago

I’m not sure he needs much of an excuse, or an angle, to beat his drum. He seems to be giving Razor credit, or as a proxy of his own, for far too many of the ideas we come up with in his articles.


He’s definitely wrong about Dmac too, yes. Pretty much everything he said, in either the words he used or the way he said, was off in that interview. Said Dmac was a “linebreaker” like what, hello, with his pass? The one question I thought they were close to getting right and actually being worthwhile, other than a few bits to Robinson on the running side, was when they asked about valuing experience and youth in his second year. Really missed the boat there as they got a mundane answer, needed to be more direct and ask how does the balance between selecting experience, the players that have class, and those players that in form change now that you’re into your second year. Would he flat out deny any change, or would there have been some honesty about how little it would be. He’d be proud enough to presume he was perfect last year so he’ll obviously been taking the same ‘perfect’ approach this year! One telling tid bit was when he made up some numbers about new caps going through a World Cup cycle, where he had 10 one year, 5 the next, a couple.. and stated that youve also got to be open to ‘bolters’ so you “don’t shut any doors”.. sounds like some pretty weak innovation incoming.

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Bull Shark 1 day ago

Careful. I got banned for being Critical of a Daniel Gallan article.

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Thomas K 2 days ago

Its wild that you think bringing Sam cane back again is a good idea.. we’re two years out from the World Cup ffs.

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JD Kiwi 2 days ago

Yeah the bloke's been a fantastic servant but his numbers were way down last year. Time for someone else to make the position his own and there's no shortage of candidates.

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Tk 2 days ago

Fundamentally disagree that we should be starting Sam Cane as 7 this year. If Ardie is best 7 play him there now. If Lakai is the future, play him there now. Let him get 30 caps prior to the world cup or you in the media will flog him for not being prepared. If Sam Cane is so good at mentoring and preparing players, well surely that is the coaches job? God knows there are enough of them, surely they have this in their job description? If not then hire Sam Cane as a coach and pick the best player.

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JH 1 day ago

Exactly. Razor and Co chest-thumped about how many new players were in the squad last year, but if they did clock up any minutes, it was almost always because there was an injury to the protected ‘leadership group’.


And taking Cane and TJ on the end of year tour for their supposed off-field help was ridiculous, that’s the coaches job. We’ll see if they get any braver this year, but more likely they’ll stick with the same old players, and it will yield the same results.

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JW 1 day ago

What if he’s not a 7, and wants to continue playing 8? You want two #7 jerseys on the park? Or are we switching Ardie to 7 and Lakai to 8?

If Sam Cane is so good at mentoring and preparing players, well surely that is the coaches job?

Good question. If Razor had all his experience and coaching ability, but was still able to go toe to toe with the players on the training paddock, do you think he’d then be a better coach, or that the players would learn more easily from him, then? That’s probably what you need to ask yourself to solve that question. Is there enough? There’s Jason, and Razor, when it comes to those positions, I’m sure the others can help answer questions but eh, how about from someone who actually knows?


How well you function in the team and help the team is definitely rewarded in your contract.

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CO 2 days ago

There is no way Cane should be an Allblack this year unless they would be expecting to be picking him in the world cup squad. He would be nearly 36 in late 2027. The truth is Savea will also struggle to be at his best in late 2027. Openside is a high attrition role and the explosive Sititi belongs there with his skills and speed. We just need to find a punishing blindsided but NZ lacks quality depth in this position and has failed to replace Kaino and is on track to not have done so in 2927 either. Kaino was a remarkable once in a generation athlete that was crucial to have won NZ two world cups with his size and defensive and offensive power. It's no coincidence that a similar framed Springbok in du Toit has also won two world cups. This position and two imposing locks is key and the Allblacks are lacking at six and need to shift a dynamic young lock into six. Savea as vice captain should become comfortable leading an impact assault team and take over the captaincy if Barrett gets spelled with an eight starting that is tough like Jacobson.

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JW 1 day ago

Yep it makes a mockery of the authors desire to have those sorts of players available. It’s not just Cane, we wouldn’t have seen Vai’i or Sititi have break through years last year to the point they were so far above what players like Whitelock, BBBR, Frizell had done the previous year.


But! That is largely because Razor and his team showed themselves to be such poor selectors. Could there be a world where those players are eligible to be used in a pinch and still ensure the right onshore talent is being used? You have to think it’s a long way from coming to fruition if it is possible, but how will we find out if they can’t be selected?

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Nickers 1 day ago

Cane shouldn’t have been one last year, based purely on performances. Lakai is as close to a like for like of swap of Savea you’re ever likely to find, based on his short career so far at least. He has many of the same qualities - very strong ball carrier, great at the breakdown, and an absolute work horse on defence. I feel like he and Sititi could lead the way in the loose at the next WC.


I think we have become obsessed with replacing Kaino with someone exactly like him. Kaino was a perfect foil for the other loose forwards we had at the time. Based on the talent we have around at the moment those players could be made up in the aggregate by three players who are all exception all rounders - Lakai, Sititi, and Savea. Missing some height for sure but Sititi’s defensive work in the line out last year was phenomenal. He gets off the ground so quickly and was able to steal a couple of balls off the top of the springbok line out.


If our young locks coming through can actually stay fit long enough to get selected, it seems inevitable that Va’ai could end up in a hybrid 6/lock role.

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SC 2 days ago

Its time Razor moves on from Papalii, Blackadder, and Jacobson.


All have had their chances with the All Blacks and have proven to be average test level players. Average loose forwards do not win World Cups.


Time to shift Savea to 7 and Sititi to 8 and find a big blindside or short lock playing Super Rugby to start at 6 to compete with Shannon Frizell when he re-signs with NZR.

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JW 1 day ago

Savea was very average last year, where do you sit there? Giving him another year?

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YeowNotEven 2 days ago

I’m jumping on the Kiriffi bandwagon HARD. That dude is owning it. It’s an absolute s**t fight amongst the loosies at the moment, no need to keep picking these guys who are average but have ‘experience’ (Blackadder papalii etc)

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bit of a flanker 2 days ago

I would counter that, this season we’ve seen Robinson at Highlanders, Godfrey at Canes, Kemara at Crusaders and Jacomb at Chiefs get consistent game time and room to come through

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YeowNotEven 2 days ago

There was an article up, Nick Bishop I think, he pointed out that how the chiefs were using Jacomb when he comes on was not growing his game.

Basically, Jacomb comes on and gets minutes but all the actual first five stuff gets done by Dmac anyway.

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SC 2 days ago

Is Jacombs really getting quality game time from this point on with McKenzie clearly re-established as the Chiefs starting 10 with Stephenson back at fullback?


Will Perofeta start at 10 when Barrett returns?


In reality, probably the #3 (Perofeta) and #4 (Jacombs) rated 10s playing in NZ are not regular week in and week out starters for their franchise. They are not THE MAN that an All Black 10 needs to be. This is the real problem.

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