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'I'm flabbergasted by what the RFU have chosen to make public' - Andy Goode

Eddie Jones (R) the head coach looks on with skills coach Steve Borthwick during the 2020 Guinness Six Nations match between England and Ireland at Twickenham (Photo by David Rogers - RFU/The RFU Collection via Getty Images)

The RFU have backed themselves into a corner after attempting to explain away their PR gaffe and all they’ve really done is stoke the fire even more.

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Sometimes it’s better to say nothing at all. That’s what they should arguably have done in the first instance but, having elaborated significantly now, the issue of the next England head coach will surely be raised at every press conference between now and the World Cup.

They may well change their minds but chief executive Bill Sweeney and director of performance Conor O’Shea have between them expressed a strong preference for Eddie Jones’ successor to be both English and to start work alongside the Australian before the global showpiece tournament next year.

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Those two criteria narrow the field massively and making them public means that there is just one name left on everybody’s lips, Steve Borthwick. That name and the topic will continue to be mentioned now and I can’t imagine that’s something Jones will take kindly to.

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Coming out with a statement in the immediate aftermath of the Six Nations suggesting that “solid progress” had been made was a huge misstep and the RFU obviously thinks being so open about their plans will help alleviate some of the criticism that has come their way.

I’m flabbergasted by what Sweeney and O’Shea have chosen to make public though. Their job should be to ensure that England, with all the resources at their disposal, have the best coach in the world in place to take the team forwards.

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The issue of whether the head coach should be English was a big one before Jones was appointed because they always had been but now I don’t think anyone would bat an eyelid if a foreign coach was appointed.

Jones will have eclipsed Sir Clive Woodward as England’s longest serving boss by the time we get to the 2023 World Cup. The likes of Duncan Fletcher in cricket and Bobby Robson in football have also lasted eight years but only World Cup winning Sir Alf Ramsey has been at the helm for longer in one of the three main sports in this country.

The RFU have had plenty of time to do what they said they intended to when Jones was appointed and ensure that an Englishman was ready to take over from him but it’s questionable whether much succession planning has been going on over the past six years.

Former England second row Nigel Redman is also playing a pivotal role in the search for the next head coach and, aside from the fact he’s been out of the game for nine years, we used to call him ‘The Riddler’ at Worcester because he used to talk in riddles.

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Strong candidates such as Scott Robertson, Warren Gatland and many more would be ruled out by an English stipulation and the other preference expressed by Sweeney and O’Shea is even more perplexing.

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The desire for the next head honcho to work with Jones prior to the 2023 World Cup rules out the likes of Shaun Edwards and Andy Farrell, both Englishmen and both names that would be right at the top of the list given what they’re achieving in international rugby at the moment.

Putting to one side whether they would be willing to work in tandem with Jones, they are both part of big projects in France and Ireland that they wouldn’t be willing to jeopardise and are both under contract.

I also think it’s misguided to use the French situation at the 2019 World Cup as a model. Fabien Galthie did go in under Jacques Brunel in that case but Galthie was out of work anyway and Brunel was not an autocratic figure like Jones is, nor was he in a strong position.

Generally, I think having a future boss going in early and working with the current one is fraught with problems. Players will be wondering who has the most authority and there’s the potential for dispute or for the new coach to be undermined before he’s even started.

If you keep making your way through the list of coaches the RFU could be lining up, there is Mark McCall. He has worked in England for donkey’s years but isn’t English.

Alex Sanderson worked under McCall and is now making his way as the main man at Sale. It might be a bit early for him but I’m also sure he wouldn’t be keen on working under Jones.

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Rob Baxter /PA

Rob Baxter has done wonders with Exeter and has said this week that he would be willing to speak to the RFU but he has also hit the nail on the head when saying that none of us actually know what the job description is and that is key.

If you want another hands-on coach like Jones who takes control of everything, Baxter is not the man but now is the time to make sure the right system is in place with England and that there is a buffer between the head coach and chief executive.

Someone like Baxter would be perfect for a director of rugby role, allowing Sweeney to concentrate on business and a head coach to focus on coaching. Sir Clive Woodward has suggested it’s like a fan picking the next head coach at the moment and he has a point.

When you work your way through it, all roads lead to Rome or Borthwick in this case. He is the only obvious candidate who is English, not under contract in June 2023 and would be willing to work under Jones in the lead up to the World Cup.

By opening up too much in order to fix a problem that was easily avoidable by not issuing a disingenuous statement from an RFU spokesperson, they have backed themselves into a corner and I think they’ve caused themselves even more problems for the 18 months ahead.

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Gary 992 days ago

How about changing the English Chairman, CEO and Board with persons who can manage the coaches and the hiring process? It certainly isn't the current crop.

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lot 995 days ago

Codkerill has had no experience international coaching and his last stint with England was very poor Others previously in assistanct England coaches included Nealy, Borthwick and the first defence coach for Jones that whitewashed Wallabies... EJ is just too demanding a coach for others including players to work with. He needs a challenger as an assistance at his level and English coaches who are not at his level will be dominated. One Aussie coach by the name of Ewen McKwenzie never made it to a RWC because he resigned but he will be a great partner for Jones with new ideas for RWC 2023...alternatively, a Kiwi like Scott Roberson, but I dont see this Kiwi man leaving NZ with his eye on AB...

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Andrew 995 days ago

You're wrong Andy. There is another that meets all criteria and is already contracted and in camp. Richard Cockerill. Perhaps the RFU are just confirming what they've already done.

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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